Wentz, Nash and Bill Mastro

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by jasond08

mr. O'keefe

my guess is that you are a liberal obama supporter. Just curious.....where do you stand on gun control and minimum wage??

wtf?

Originally Posted by jasond08

I have never had any conversation about sanford & sons' wagner (can't remember their names) come up.

Jason

wtf?

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

wtf?



wtf?

My thoughts exactly.

[cobblove]

"Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
Scott what were their excuses for not taking the card to psa or sgc if i knew i have forgotten?"

"Neither company would let them go behind the scenes to see it being graded, is what I believe their issue was. That is what Joe Orlando said in the video. I am guessing it's the same thing with SGC. The owners said it might get scratched or something."


Ok this is something Ive been wanting to ask about. Ive heard them use this excuse several times before and I just find it to be an easy excuse. My question is this. They have done an expert paper sample on the card right? How exactly does that work? Dont they have to scrap a paper sample off the card to do so? Or remove a piece of paper from the card? Or scratch some off? How does a paper sample work? Or do they just look through a microscop and say yep its 100 years old.?
Trying to wrap my head around the paper experts process.
Sorry if this is a dumb question.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by cobblove

"Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth
Scott what were their excuses for not taking the card to psa or sgc if i knew i have forgotten?"

"Neither company would let them go behind the scenes to see it being graded, is what I believe their issue was. That is what Joe Orlando said in the video. I am guessing it's the same thing with SGC. The owners said it might get scratched or something."


Ok this is something Ive been wanting to ask about. Ive heard them use this excuse several times before and I just find it to be an easy excuse. My question is this. They have done an expert paper sample on the card right? How exactly does that work? Dont they have to scrap a paper sample off the card to do so? Or remove a piece of paper from the card? Or scratch some off? How does a paper sample work? Or do they just look through a microscop and say yep its 100 years old.?
Trying to wrap my head around the paper experts process.
Sorry if this is a dumb question.

The mistake is that they weren't worried about the card being scratched. It is that the card may be stolen and swapped for a fake.
... or maybe PSA will still their fake and swap it with an authentic card?

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

The mistake is that they weren't worried about the card being scratched. It is that the card may be stolen and swapped for a fake.
... or maybe PSA will still their fake and swap it with an authentic card?

What's to keep the auctioneer from running off with it? It was in his possession for a long time. It would be pretty simple to get this card graded at a show without ever leaving the table.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

What's to keep the auctioneer from running off with it? It was in his possession for a long time. It would be pretty simple to get this card graded at a show without ever leaving the table.

Yeah, but taking it to SGC or PSA would kill the deal.

They are also working on a perpetual motion machine. ....and please don't say it's impossible, unless of course, you are a racist.

[cobblove]

PSA..You can wait in the lobby at PSA if you like while its being graded.

Yeah but does PSA have a back door Mr Orlando??

Mr Orlando.. How did you know about our back door!!!

Sorry we cant do business with you PSA!

[JasonD08]

OK so Mr. Simon are you insinuating that I made a racial slur?? My comment referencing Sanford & Sons was made in comparison to the two guys as JUNK dealers trying to pass of garbage. I should have imagined you left-wingers have been waiting to jump on someone to cry and pull the"race card". Actually, ole Red Fox had more class than these two parasites.

[forazzurri2axz]

Originally Posted by jasond08
mr. O'keefe

my guess is that you are a liberal obama supporter. Just curious.....where do you stand on gun control and minimum wage??

JASON

I AM A PROUD OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND DAMN PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL !!

KEEP YOUR TEABAG RIGHT WING POLITICS OUT OF BASEBALL POSTS

LIBERAL BILL LATZKO TIL THE DAY I DIE!!
VIVA CHE GUEVARA!!

[T206DK]

Originally Posted by forazzurri2axz

Originally Posted by jasond08
mr. O'keefe

my guess is that you are a liberal obama supporter. Just curious.....where do you stand on gun control and minimum wage??

JASON

I AM A PROUD OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND DAMN PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL !!

KEEP YOUR TEABAG RIGHT WING POLITICS OUT OF BASEBALL POSTS

LIBERAL BILL LATZKO TIL THE DAY I DIE!!
VIVA CHE GUEVARA!!

Be proud somewhere else then !

[Leon]

Originally Posted by forazzurri2axz

Originally Posted by jasond08
mr. O'keefe

my guess is that you are a liberal obama supporter. Just curious.....where do you stand on gun control and minimum wage??

JASON

I AM A PROUD OBAMA SUPPORTER, AND DAMN PROUD TO BE A LIBERAL !!

KEEP YOUR TEABAG RIGHT WING POLITICS OUT OF BASEBALL POSTS

LIBERAL BILL LATZKO TIL THE DAY I DIE!!
VIVA CHE GUEVARA!!

Liberal Bill Latzko has been given an infraction and suspended for 1 week, for this comment, or until I remember to let him back, whichever is later.

[wolf441]

Wow, has this thread taken some twists and turns!!

By my count we've covered:

Nash, Wentz & Mastro
Cobb & Edwards
Racism
conservative politics
liberal politics
Michael O'Keefe
Auction House Shilling (c'mon, someone bring up Curt Schilling and the bloody sock or his failed 38 Studios!!)
Computer Hacking of Auction House Software
Spelling
REA, SGC, PSA
Great '70's sitcoms
and the highlight for me - a BEAUTIFUL Hank Greenberg card.

Now that is a thread that went far afield....

[autograf]

@Leon.....Don't let him back in until he learns to use upper AND lower case letters.....

[Griffins]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Wow, has this thread taken some twists and turns!!

By my count we've covered:

Nash, Wentz & Mastro
Cobb & Edwards
Racism
conservative politics
liberal politics
Michael O'Keefe
Auction House Shilling (c'mon, someone bring up Curt Schilling and the bloody sock or his failed 38 Studios!!)
Computer Hacking of Auction House Software
Spelling
REA, SGC, PSA
Great '70's sitcoms
and the highlight for me - a BEAUTIFUL Hank Greenberg card.

Now that is a thread that went far afield....

Still missing a decent Seinfeld reference. And NOIZE. Definitely need to bring on DA NOIZE!

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Wow, has this thread taken some twists and turns!!

By my count we've covered:

Nash, Wentz & Mastro
Cobb & Edwards
Racism
conservative politics
liberal politics
Michael O'Keefe
Auction House Shilling (c'mon, someone bring up Curt Schilling and the bloody sock or his failed 38 Studios!!)
Computer Hacking of Auction House Software
Spelling
REA, SGC, PSA
Great '70's sitcoms
and the highlight for me - a BEAUTIFUL Hank Greenberg card.

Now that is a thread that went far afield....

This thread also correctly pointed out that some of us here, "intrinsically value pictures of long dead sporting men."

Additionally, there was a reference made to an, "illiterate, feces-flinging monkey."

Two pretty memorable quotes, in my opinion. I know I won't forget them.



Best Regards,

Eric

[tschock]

Wow. I've always found it ironic/hypocritical/etc that those who tout Che Guevara as a hero never want to "redistribute" their collection to those of us with lesser means to afford them. Perhaps capitalism only suits them when they are the ones in line to make a buck?

[Deertick]

Originally Posted by Leon

Liberal Bill Latzko has been given an infraction and suspended for 1 week, for this comment, or until I remember to let him back, whichever is later.

At least he made it to 300 posts!

My guess is that he read Jason's posts, they infuriated him (as it did many of us), and he responded without reading farther down the page.

[HRBAKER]

Many others read Jason's posts, took a deep breath and moved on as well.

[Rich Klein]

Can someone please fill me on the 1952 Mantle story. In other words, I forgot to ask Leon about this today

Rich

[ullmandds]

personally...i'd rather discuss the scumbag activites of bill mastro and friends over the years?!

i don't understand why the F anyone is still talking about Ray and John's fake wagner?! We all know it's a terrible fake front mated to a real back...it's been proven by ct scan...it's obvious to anyone with any t206/vintage card knowledge it's a terrible fake. Everyone loves to watch a train wreck...nothing to see here!

Whether I agree with O'keefe or not...I enjoyed reading "the card" and my sister works at the ny daily news...and I like the unique attention the vintage card world gets from tdn!

And as far as Halper goes...another fallen "hero" to add to the list!

[Jewish-collector]

[slidekellyslide]

People will still discuss their card as long as the mainstream media continues to portray the story as if the card has a chance at being real. Of course we know it's a fake, but does your mom?

I am astounded at how much press baseball cards and memorabilia get in general...the E98 find last year got a TON of mainstream press...I heard and read about it everywhere. My local radio station was discussing the Brooklyn Atlantics CDV last week.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

People will still discuss their card as long as the mainstream media continues to portray the story as if the card has a chance at being real. Of course we know it's a fake, but does your mom?

Well-said. And Cobb, Edwards and O'Keefe probably have the same level of expertise when it comes to T206's.