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Old 10-04-2012, 02:16 PM
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I never said his numbers were unheard of, my first point in the thread was that i did not see how a triple crown winner could not get the vote for mvp.
Given how long it's been since there's been a triple crown winner, I can completely agree..There should be no doubt. But the fact that Trout even casts even the slightest doubt, really says something about the season he had..

Miggy's got it for me. But at the same time, the triple crown is somewhat arbitrary, and in this case, kinda based on other players shortcomings.. Let's say Bautista and Encarnacion don't get hurt coming down the stretch. Or Josh Hamilton doesn't have a Pepsi hangover, then we probably aren't even having this conversation..

Let's also not forget that Miggy led the league in GIDP with 28, but then again, that stat's as circumstantial as RBI's are..

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Old 10-04-2012, 02:20 PM
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given how long it's been since there's been a triple crown winner, i can completely agree..there should be no doubt. But the fact that trout even casts even the slightest doubt, really says something about the season he had..

Miggy's got it for me. But at the same time, the triple crown is somewhat arbitrary, and in this case, kinda based on other players shortcomings.. Let's say bautista and encarnacion don't get hurt coming down the stretch. Or josh hamilton doesn't have a pepsi hangover, then we probably aren't even having this conversation..

Let's also not forget that miggy led the league in gidp with 28, but then again, that stat's as circumstantial as rbi's are..
i do want to make one point very clear, even though i think cabrera should get the mvp, if i was starting a team today i would rather have trout.....
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Old 10-04-2012, 02:51 PM
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in 50 years i'll still remember miguel cabrera getting the triple crown in 2012, but trout is the mvp.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:49 PM
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in 50 years i'll still remember miguel cabrera getting the triple crown in 2012, but trout is the mvp.
Well said.

I'm with all the stat nerds who vote for Trout as MVP, but I'm glad I got to follow Cabrera's chase at a Triple Crown. Despite its reliance on archaic #s, those are traditional #s I studied on my '87 Topps cards, and I'll no longer think "Yaz" when thinking of the Triple Crown.

Here's to hoping more refined and valuable #s find their way onto the next generation of Topps cards
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For many people including myself, there has never been a triple crown in their lifetime, and probably never will again with the over specialization in pitching. Cabrera is MVP, and the fact that the Tigers made the post season and the Angels did not will not make the vote Not as close as most people think.
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Old 10-04-2012, 11:43 PM
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Didn't Dimaggio win the MVP the same year Williams won a Triple Crown?

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BBWAA members assigned to the National League Most Valuable Player committee are told, “There is no clear-cut definition of what Most Valuable means. It is up to the individual voter to decide who was the Most Valuable Player in each league to his team. The MVP need not come from a division winner or other playoff qualifier.

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