Wagner??

[Mark]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

I thought it would be obvious enough from what I posted, but the batter vs. Clarke noses are markedly different in both size and shape. Both Wagner and the batter had enormous noses. The batter can't possibly be Clarke.

It would be easier to rule Clarke out if you had a photo from slightly behind and below his right shoulder. Wouldn't such an angle tend to make the features seem elongated? As in the photo?

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Mark

It would be easier to rule Clarke out if you had a photo from slightly behind and below his right shoulder. Wouldn't such an angle tend to make the features seem elongated? As in the photo?

No - there is no viewing angle that will make a nose appear elongated. A nose will appear to stick out from the face the most if the view is a straight profile - as in the Clarke photos I posted (unless the nose is substantially bent right or left). For any other angle it will appear to stick out less.

In light of a few emails I received and the way the poll questions are posed, I want to be sure my position is understood. I am saying that I can't eliminate the batter being Wagner based on facial feature comparison (maybe someone else can), and that the batter is very unlikely to be Clarke or Wilson.That's it, and that is why I did not vote in the poll.

I would hesitate to recommend that someone buy the piece based on it depicting Wagner - it may be him, but there is a risk.

The comments on stature do seem reasonable. To me the waist seems narrow - but he may just have his belt pulled tight - I don't know.

[bmarlowe1]

Mark - below are the batter's nose and Clarke's nose. I have re-sized them so that the nose sizes match, as does the angle of the bridge. You could now say that size doesn't matter. It should be obvious that thse are two different humans.

[bmarlowe1]

After some research I think I have this figured out pretty definitively - will post tomorrow night.

[bobbvc]

Photo from "Honus Wagner, A Biography" DeValeria. Note- Batter and catcher closer to same height in this photo than photo in question. (Yes, I know knees bent, etc. make it harder to tell).

[smokelessjoe]

I am guessing this is a different day right? Maybe not, I do not not know? Definitely some differences...

None of the fans sitting on the field & different umpire. Those things could change during a game though - I guess.

[jsousa1213]

Any chance this is Warren Gill? I ask this based on the fact that the photo from eBay posted in message #8 appears to have "Gill at Bat" written on the back, Gill did bat in the second game that day as a pinch hitter, and, from the attached photo, he appears to have similar features to the batter, including a large nose and connected earlobes.

On Baseball Reference, Gill is also listed as a right handed batter, but, with only 27 games in his career, I suppose it would be possible that he was actually a switch hitter. Or maybe he sensed that his career was about over and decided to do it for a lark.

Jason