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Posted By: bruce Dorskind
TOPPS SETS BID TERMS |
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Posted By: Cobby33
A Tour de Force of mass-produced, mediocre, overpriced cards. |
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Posted By: Pcelli60
Let topps remain a product of our memories..Remember it as it was. What it produces today matters to us here..not. |
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Posted By: dennis
agree w/above lets remember these and not the shiney stuff of today. |
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Posted By: Jim Dale
the card industry today does little right, but combining them into just one entity isn't going to make it better. |
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt
at a holiday inn express last night. I'd be interested if anyone really cared about antitrust laws on this or not. Guess they could. Seems like 400M isn't a HUGE amount but if it could jeopardize peoples options..... |
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Posted By: Richard Masson
The antitrust issues here are interesting. The Players' Associations should be the most worried and should argue the hardest. They created the oligopoly by canceling licenses to Fleer and Donruss. I believe Topps or UD purchased those trade names, so the Association would be forced to fund a new competitor to keep the negotiations honest. |
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Posted By: Peter Spaeth
The Topps court appears to have found that Fleer did not meet its burden of showing a baseball card market, but went on (seemingly arbitrarily) to nevertheless find a baseball card "submarket" which Topps had monopolized. The findings from the opinion are interesting, and perhaps somewhat dated. |
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Posted By: Dan Bretta
The memories of our youth (well some of us anyway |
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Posted By: boxingcardman
"Baseball cards are unique. For decades, they have been an important and distinctive part of many childhoods. Baseball cards have achieved a type of public recognition that distinguishes them from such items as other trading cards, bubble gum and candy. Cardboard, wallet-size pictures of active major league players have existed for generations. Even if the product was merely a casual idea of a long-forgotten promoter in the 1880's, and even if there are hundreds of variations and substitutes which logically might exist, the concept is now so embedded that baseball cards literally define themselves. The permanence of those cardboard pictures is a market reality which the Court must recognize." |
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Posted By: Dylan
Everyone likes to say the card companies do little right these days but what would you like to see from them? One set produced from each company, per year, in small numbers? I dont think thats economicaly viable anymore. |
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Posted By: Bob
Dan you took the words right out of my mouth! |
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Posted By: barrysloate
The modern cards have no character. I can't even tell them apart. |
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
Barry- there has to be a few kids that love the hobby just as much as we may had that can memorize every player and stat, no matter how many companies their are. It is just that we are older now and not as sharp. Look at what had survived the years and not to mention the wee choices they had of keeping them nice for us over time. I will say that Iam glad to not have grown up in the new collective bunch. |
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Posted By: barrysloate
Hi Dan- you are completely correct that I am looking at this through the eyes of an adult and not as a child. But when we were kids we loved baseball cards, and every year we waited to see the new designs. Today far fewer kids even care about them, and I have to tell you, they still all look the same to me. I know the world has changed drastically and kids have plenty of other choices, but I can't believe the kids today care about it the way we did. Maybe some do, but they have too many distractions. |
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Posted By: Bob C
Hey, |
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Posted By: Paul S
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Posted By: Dan Koteles
Barry- I didnt think you were ranting at all. What is funny about todays packs is that adults are the only ones that can afford them ,so just how much collecting is done by the kids? |
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