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Old 03-26-2024, 04:11 PM
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Default New & old 1991 Topps variations scarcity including backs (personal experience).

I have found several new 91 Topps variations some of which I think could be possible adds to the master checklist. I will post scans here and let Dylan decide if he wants to add any of them to the
master checklist that he keeps on his site.

I will start with these three and post more periodically.

Wally Joyner with the same RPD in company as Bob Melvin and Donnie Hill.
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Hector Villanueva wit an RPD in San in his San Juan birthplace
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Someone can double check me on this one. All of the Baltimore players have a yellow patch in the O in Orioles from the team banner but Dave Gallagher can be found
with two different variations one with the yellow patch and one without it.


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I'm still working on a list of new variations and I'm also working on rating the existing variations on Dylans list https://junkwaxgems.wordpress.com/ta...nd-variations/

If there's enough interest in it I will post it when I'm done.

Here's what I have for #9 Darrin Fletcher using ebay, COMC, and my collection

No code 97 total or 85.1%

F* code 17 Total or 14.9%

I'm also doing the backs but I can only do that accurately using my collection this is what I have for the Fletcher

no code
Glow - 20 or 83.3%
no glow - 4 or 16.6%

F* code
glow - 0 or 0%
no glow - 6 or 100%

I don't think the F* was printed with a glow back or it's very scarce if it was.
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I'm always looking for additions to our COMC checklist and it's fun to try to figure out the 1991 set (and other sets as well).

In the past few years, we've gotten even better at adding things to our data base

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I'm always looking for additions to our COMC checklist and it's fun to try to figure out the 1991 set (and other sets as well).

In the past few years, we've gotten even better at adding things to our data base

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Hi Rich, when I get the list completed I will send it to you and you can decide if there are any that you think you might want to include in the COMC listings. If there are any I would be able to provide scans if you want them.

I don't know what you would want to include there are several obstructed writing variations/flaws like the Joyner in my first post and there's also ink/gloss variation/flaws like the two Hatchers on the left with an ink/gloss issue above his left hand (or maybe that's Casper in the stands).

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Before I started seriously researching these I already knew from reading on here and other places the abundance of the variations in the 91 topps but when I started getting deeper in my research it became apparent that it was even more vast than I had thought.

Here's one example. Of the 5 subjects printed with the E* F* print codes I had already known from reading about them that the ones with the E* F* codes were far more common (close to 15:-1: ) than the F* codes (only printed with a non glow back) but the E* F* codes with a non glow back are actually a little more than twice as difficult as the F* codes.

Here are the statistics on the cards I have

E* F* codes with a glow back = 80.097%
E* F* codes with a non glow back = 6.310%
F* codes non glow back only = 13.592%

and to complicate things even more both the E* F* and F* non glow backs are found in a distinct burgundy/plum or bright red back (about 50/50).
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Maybe there is some guy, or woman, at Topps who planned all this and has a master list they are holding to see if Pat ever gets it all fully mapped out
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Hi Rich, when I get the list completed I will send it to you and you can decide if there are any that you think you might want to include in the COMC listings. If there are any I would be able to provide scans if you want them.

I don't know what you would want to include there are several obstructed writing variations/flaws like the Joyner in my first post and there's also ink/gloss variation/flaws like the two Hatchers on the left with an ink/gloss issue above his left hand (or maybe that's Casper in the stands).

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TY and yes there is always a line when it comes to things like this and sometimes the printing flaws and corrections are obvious (1971 Topps Jim Nash and Jim Northrup with the BLOB and no BLOB) is a great example of an easy to list printing issue/correction. Thus, the line is different for everyone. I know people on this board who can tell you the nuance of every 1961-3 Post Cereal/Jell-O/Canadian Post

So, thank you in advance and also thanks to Dylan with whom I've communicated with frequently for years. And Lucky Larry has been great with his exhibit card photos and I've added a few that way as well.
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Don't forget the other glow backs, which are a very dark red under UV.
From the smallish sample size I have, they're not at all common.

There's a few other UV oddities, but so few I can't rule out something post production.

Cardstock that either reacts or reflects UV, showing sort of blue white ish, or with white fibers. Only a couple of each, and they could be fiber transfer from a reactive paper.

A glosscoat that reacts green under UV. Only one so far, but I haven't spent hours doing the fronts with the blacklight.
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