St. Louis 1915/16 Uniform question?

[jjbond]

Is there an easy way to tell if this is a picture of Fielder Jones in his 1914/1915 St. Louis Terriers uniform, or a later St. Louis Browns uniform?

[icollectDCsports]

Browns?

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.o...if&Entryid=262

[jjbond]

Originally Posted by icollectDCsports

Browns?

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.o...if&Entryid=262

Thanks. That's what I was leaning towards, but I've seen a number of pictures of him in this top labeled as Federal League....
Guess I'll be extra careful.

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by jjbond

Thanks. That's what I was leaning towards, but I've seen a number of pictures of him in this top labeled as Federal League....
Guess I'll be extra careful.

But suppose it's possible those jerseys were similar. Would have to search for photos of the Federal League jerseys.

[jjbond]

Here are a few others. They look like from the same time period.....the question is which year. I'm still leaning to them being post-Federal League, regardless of how they've been labeled.

[nolemmings]

According to Marc Okkonen's work, the St. Louis Terriers did not spell out St. Louis on their uniforms in 1914, instead using the StL logo, and only spelled it out on the roadies for 1915, which were dark with white lettering. Also note that the Terriers used pinstripes, but the Browns did not.

http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.o...s/database.htm

[nolemmings]

Here is what Fielder Jones looked like in his Terriers' uniform:

[RUKen]

I've pasted below an image of Jones in the StL home uniform, and a group photo of the Terriers in the dark road uniform.

Edited to add: This is the 1914 home uniform. See post #10 for the 1915 home uniform.

[jjbond]

Ok thanks everyone. I had thought that was the case, but saw so many claiming these outfits were from the Terriers's years. Thanks again for all your time.

[RUKen]

I am reviving this year-old thread to correct the record. The home uniform indicated for the St. Louis Terriers in 1915 by Marc Okkonen is incorrect. The Terriers had a nearly all-white uniform, without pinstripes, as seen below on second baseman Bobby Vaughn and pitcher Eddie Plank:

[doug.goodman]

More examples of the Terriers 1915 uniform

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by RUKen

I am reviving this year-old thread to correct the record. The home uniform indicated for the St. Louis Terriers in 1915 by Marc Okkonen is incorrect. The Terriers had a nearly all-white uniform, without pinstripes, as seen below on second baseman Bobby Vaughn and pitcher Eddie Plank:

I found a photo on the website for the Missouri Historical Society (https://mohistory.org/collections/item/N40472), a portion of which I am showing here, of action at a Terriers game. The player in the foreground has no stripes, while you can see the StL on the pitcher, but no Federal League patch on the sleeve, which I thought was a feature of the 1914 uniform. Any idea what season this would be from? Is there a chance this could be from 1913?

[nolemmings]

I'm not convinced it's a Federal League uniform at all. Looks like a Browns uniform, although admittedly it is blurry.

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by nolemmings

I'm not convinced it's a Federal League uniform at all. Looks like a Browns uniform, although admittedly it is blurry.

Agreed; it appears to be the St. Louis Browns home uniform 1911-1914.

George Stovall below:

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by RUKen

Agreed; it appears to be the St. Louis Browns home uniform 1911-1914.

George Stovall below:

I guess I'll have to look at the original and see why the museum thinks it is from a Federal League game.

Does anyone know if the background matches the stands from Sportsman's Park at that time?

[GKreindler]

Unquestionably photographed at the Polo Grounds.

[RUKen]

Originally Posted by GKreindler

Unquestionably photographed at the Polo Grounds.

The Browns' road uniform had "ST. LOUIS" across the chest, not the SL logo. The 1914 Terriers of the Federal League had an StL logo on their road uniforms, but the uniforms were pinstriped (including the caps), and the Polo Grounds did not host Federal League games. I think the photo has to be at Sportsman's Park, unless it is at a spring training facility.

For another look at that logo, I've attached below an image of the Browns' Mike Balenti:

[GKreindler]

Sorry, I meant the original photo from jjbond is of him at the Polo Grounds. Definitely the Browns.