U3 matchbook master checklist?

[obcmac]

Anybody have a master checklist for U3-1 matchbooks with known variations (both color and text/pose)? Thought about starting a list here, but I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if it's already been done.

Mac

[nolemmings]

I would be interested in seeing one, whether created here or linked from elsewhere. Six or seven years ago I tried tracking these (I once had a few). I have an old spreadsheet showing confirmation of 56 red, 59 blue and 66 green from the U3-1 series, which I have not updated in awhile. I did note the differing years and have dozens of scans, and I can give specifics if you want to start a list.

[UKCardGuy]

TCDB.com has a checklist of the various U3 matchbook series

https://www.tcdb.com/Search.cfm?Sear...mond+matchbook

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

TCDB.com has a checklist of the various U3 matchbook series

https://www.tcdb.com/Search.cfm?Sear...mond+matchbook

Thanks for the info. The TCDB doesn't have any of the color/text variations listed unfortunately. (That's where I started)

[BobC]

Originally Posted by obcmac

Thanks for the info. The TCDB doesn't have any of the color/text variations listed unfortunately. (That's where I started)

Are you trying for a master set with all the red, green, blue borders for each player, and so on? If so, good luck, that's going to be a heck of a project. As for other image/text variations or versions, sorry, I'm only aware of the very few listed in the SCD and TCDB checklists myself. Would be interested to see such a master checklist(s) for these if you ever do come across any. Again, good luck.

[obcmac]

Here is just a partial list of what variations I've seen so far. Eventually I'll catalog the ones I only have one of to see if others have variations. I did notice a few errors in the TCDB version as well...mostly including those from the Cubs set. Many variations add text at the end, but some maintain similar text with some variations (fun). Color variations that just have same text in different colors are less common than I thought.

I'll put the rolling updates in this list.

Bejma, Ollie Green ends in country
Bejma, Aloysius Green ends in 34 campaign
Birkofer Age 24 Green ends in losing 12
Birkofer Age 27 Red ends in 21 lost
Bucher green ends in hitter
Bucher blue 1935 ends in .303
Collins blue ends in .333
Collins red ends in .313
Collins green ends in .313
Cuccinello Green Dodgers, C on jacket, mentions 27 years old on second line
Cuccinello Green Bees, no C on jacket, no mention of age
Davis Blue no mention of age
Davis Green mentions age 30 on second line
Durocher Green ends 35 season
Durocher Red ends ohio
Fitzsimmons Green mentions age 33 on second line
Fitzsimmons Blue no mention of age
B.Frey Red Ends in "Nashville"
B.Frey Blue references 35 season, Ends in Batted 344
L.Frey Green ends "last season"
L.Frey Green ends "36 Campaign"
Galen Green references 35 ends "Cal"
Galen Red references 34 ends "34"
Grimm Red ...completed 16 years...ends in pennant
Grimm Blue ...completed 17 years..., ends in 35
Hadley Green Yankees ends in "1935"
Hadley Green Senators ends in Mass
Charles Hartnett Red ends in 190 lbs
Gabby Hartnett Red ends in '34
Charles Hartnett (portrait...is from Cubs set)
Hayworth Red photo with chest protector, ends in .309
Hayworth Blue no chest protector, ends in pitching
Herman Green nothing on jersey ends in flag
Herman Green partial text on jersey, ends in 1934
Herman big stripe around neck (is from Cubs set) ends in .310
Jordan Red Ends in N.C.
Jordan Green ends in campaign
Klein Blue ends in .346
Klein Blue ends in .3524
Knickerbocker green above waist picture ends in games
Knickerbocker green below waist (3/4 pose) ends in hitter
Koenig green ends in infield
Koenig red ends in season
Kress Blue ends in .298
Kress Blue ends in outfield
Lee red ends in set-backs
Lee red ends in 14
Leonard red ends in 11
Leonard green ends in shut-out
Linke green ends in lost 2
Linke blue ends in lost 2
Linke red ends in losing 7
McNair blue Red Sox ends in size
McNair red Athletics ends in runs
Medwick blue ends in Series
Medwick red ends in .353
Parmalee green Giants ends in six
Parmalee red Cardinals ends in Giants
Selkirk green ends in doubles
Selkirk blue ends in line-up
Spohrer blue Braves ends in "resides in Philadelphia PA"
Spohrer red Bees ends in "home is in Philadelphia PA"
Stone red ends in .315
Stone blue ends in nevertheless
Suhr green (similar text to red) last line includes only baseman
Suhr red (similar text to green) last line "player's first baseman"
Urbanski Blue Bees no mention of age on line 2
Urbanski Red Braves mentions age 30 on line 2
Warneke green ends in lbs
Warneke blue ends in season

[BobC]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

TCDB.com has a checklist of the various U3 matchbook series

https://www.tcdb.com/Search.cfm?Sear...mond+matchbook

Basically, those TCDB checklists of Diamond Matchbooks are almost exactly the same as the checklists in the old SCD catalogs that Bob Lemke used to be editor of. So just get one of the old SCD catalogs if you want checklists.

However, one of those TCDB Diamond Matchbook checklists is apparently incorrect. The number 4 checklist on that TCDB link, 1936 Diamond Matchbooks, shows a total of 18 matchbooks in the set, which includes 2 variations of Fritsch's matchbooks, and 3 versions of Grimm's matchbooks. The SCD catalog shows 13 matchbooks in the set, but only separately counted 2 of the 3 Grimm matchbook versions, so the SCD checklist actually contains 14 different matchbooks. The main difference between this matchbook set and the other non-silver or non-black border Diamond Matchbook sets was that on the back of this matchbook set, the team name was printed right below the player's name at the top. The other sets had no team name printed separately on the backs.

The difference of 4 matchbooks between the two sets is made up of the 1 Fritsch matchbook variation that the SCD catalogs didn't include, along with individual matchbooks of Dizzy Dean, Paul Waner, and Augie Galan. And if you look at the Galan matchbook image shown for this checklist on the TCDB site, you'll see it does not include the team name on the back. That image is of a matchbook from the 1936 Diamond Matchbooks Chicago Cubs set, the number 5 listed set on the TCDB site. So it clearly does not belong on this checklist for the 1936 Diamond Matchbooks. Oddly, or maybe conveniently, there are no images shown for the Dean and Waner matchbooks on this 1936 Diamond Matchbooks checklist, and due to the obvious Galan error, I would suspect that Dean and Waner don't belong on this checklist either. I would better trust the SCD checklist, at least until someone could provide an image of any of those three players showing the team name on the back of their matchbooks.

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by BobC

Basically, those TCDB checklists of Diamond Matchbooks are almost exactly the same as the checklists in the old SCD catalogs that Bob Lemke used to be editor of. So just get one of the old SCD catalogs if you want checklists.

However, one of those TCDB Diamond Matchbook checklists is apparently incorrect. The number 4 checklist on that TCDB link, 1936 Diamond Matchbooks, shows a total of 18 matchbooks in the set, which includes 2 variations of Fritsch's matchbooks, and 3 versions of Grimm's matchbooks. The SCD catalog shows 13 matchbooks in the set, but only separately counted 2 of the 3 Grimm matchbook versions, so the SCD checklist actually contains 14 different matchbooks. The main difference between this matchbook set and the other non-silver or non-black border Diamond Matchbook sets was that on the back of this matchbook set, the team name was printed right below the player's name at the top. The other sets had no team name printed separately on the backs.

The difference of 4 matchbooks between the two sets is made up of the 1 Fritsch matchbook variation that the SCD catalogs didn't include, along with individual matchbooks of Dizzy Dean, Paul Waner, and Augie Galan. And if you look at the Galan matchbook image shown for this checklist on the TCDB site, you'll see it does not include the team name on the back. That image is of a matchbook from the 1936 Diamond Matchbooks Chicago Cubs set, the number 5 listed set on the TCDB site. So it clearly does not belong on this checklist for the 1936 Diamond Matchbooks. Oddly, or maybe conveniently, there are no images shown for the Dean and Waner matchbooks on this 1936 Diamond Matchbooks checklist, and due to the obvious Galan error, I would suspect that Dean and Waner don't belong on this checklist either. I would better trust the SCD checklist, at least until someone could provide an image of any of those three players showing the team name on the back of their matchbooks.

Here are the Dean U3-1 and U3-2 variations