Another inexcusable PSA screw up - they graded another reprint!

[Rhotchkiss]

Inexcusable from the self-proclaimed industry leader. It’s one thing to miss alterations, which really they should not miss. But grading a REPRINT t206 cy young portrait EPDG, is pathetic. This on the heels of the reprint 1914 Cracker Jack Mack PSA graded.

Come on PSA!!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...1#post17453176

[ClementeFanOh]

I'll jump on the pile! PSA is lousy, there's a deal with Beelzebub somewhere
that keeps them alive. Trent King

[chadeast]

Yeah, it is pathetic, but I'm also not surprised, even a tiny bit. The CJ Mack permanently changed my opinion and future expectations.

[Arazi4442]

Stunning

[GasHouseGang]

Here are the pictures from Ebay. Not as good as some, better than others.

[brianp-beme]

Originally Posted by GasHouseGang

Here are the pictures from Ebay. Not as good as some, better than others.

Perhaps Leon is interested...I think he is collecting T206 Hall of Famers with extra big borders.

Brian

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

...Common PSA...

So, are you saying this is common with PSA?

[Leon]

Isn't there supposed to be more than 1 person inspecting cards at PSA? If that is the case then more than 1 person needs re-evaluating or a pink slip.

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Inexcusable from the self-proclaimed industry leader. It’s one thing to miss alterations, which really they should not miss. But grading a REPRINT t206 cy young portrait EPDG, is pathetic. This on the heels of the reprint 1914 Cracker Jack Mack PSA graded.

Come on PSA!!

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showth...1#post17453176

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by Leon

Isn't there supposed to be more than 1 person inspecting cards at PSA? If that is the case then more than 1 person needs re-evaluating or a pink slip.

I am not sure. I am not a submitter and really dont know how PSA works. But I suspect the cost to grade a T206 CY Young EPDG is at least $100. And for that, the submitter (hell the hobby) deserves a "grader" who can spot a reprint from a real 110-year old card.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I suspect the cost to grade a T206 CY Young EPDG is at least $100.

This is why I truly believe that someone at PSA is taking money under the table for favorable grades. I've said it for years, I'll continue to say it.

Nobody in their right mind is going to spend $100 or more hoping to just slip one past the graders. If you're going to spend that kind of money on something that's fake (or been altered), you have to know you're expecting something in return.

FWIW, the cert number no longer appears in their database, so at least they removed that. Unfortunately, that doesn't remove the card from circulation.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

FWIW, the cert number no longer appears in their database, so at least they removed that. Unfortunately, that doesn't remove the card from circulation.

They've also removed the certs for the next 2 sequential numbers - 5067056 & 50670567, but all other numbers in that sequence (before and after) show to be active.

[chadeast]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

This is why I truly believe that someone at PSA is taking money under the table for favorable grades. I've said it for years, I'll continue to say it.

Nobody in their right mind is going to spend $100 or more hoping to just slip one past the graders. If you're going to spend that kind of money on something that's fake (or been altered), you have to know you're expecting something in return.

FWIW, the cert number no longer appears in their database, so at least they removed that. Unfortunately, that doesn't remove the card from circulation.

I think it's more likely that the submitters are submitting out of a genuine lack of knowledge. That's exactly what happened with the CJ Mack. The submitter really didn't know much about CJ's but submitted it to get PSA's "expert" opinion. He was very open to sharing everything about his submission. It was 100% PSA's mistake.

I'm sure that I'm not quoting it correctly but this axiom applies. Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I am not sure. I am not a submitter and really dont know how PSA works. But I suspect the cost to grade a T206 CY Young EPDG is at least $100. And for that, the submitter (hell the hobby) deserves a "grader" who can spot a reprint from a real 110-year old card.

Would love to see a scan of the Doyle in its PSA holder, Ryan. Could you post one? Can't imagine what it costs to have a million dollar card slabbed by PSA. Could you shed some light?

[Rhotchkiss]

Originally Posted by BRoberts

Would love to see a scan of the Doyle in its PSA holder, Ryan. Could you post one? Can't imagine what it costs to have a million dollar card slabbed by PSA. Could you shed some light?

I don’t have a pic of it handy, but I think there is a pic of it in my registry set. I am not going discuss submitting the card and that’s the last question I field on
me and my cards. Let’s please keep the focus on the topic - PSA can’t tell a t206 reprint from the real thing. I bet PRO would have gotten that one right!

[conor912]

At least it doesn’t have perforations.

[BRoberts]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

I don’t have a pic of it handy, but I think there is a pic of it in my registry set. I am not going discuss submitting the card and that’s the last question I field on
me and my cards. Let’s please keep the focus on the topic - PSA can’t tell a t206 reprint from the real thing. I bet PRO would have gotten that one right!

Fair enough. Your uneasiness to discuss how your actions with PSA contradict your criticism of them is totally understandable.

Congratulations, by the way, on your ranking on PSA's T206 registry.