Notice from PSA Management about a certification number

[russkcpa]

I happened to be looking at some recent prices on PSA for some of my high end cards. With one of my 52 Mantle cards (purchase a few years ago in a Heritage auction and sitting in a Lighthouse case) when I typed in the certification number up popped a message to contact Jackie Curiel at 949-567-1254 for an important message. I have seen this before but never with any of my cards. After researching the certification number I believe it may have been used in an attempted counterfeit card sale some years ago so not sure if that card popped up again ?
I will contact Jackie but was curious if anyone had run into this.
Thanks
Russ

[swarmee]

Yep, someone else probably tried to register the serial number in their registry and was told it was already assigned to one.
Do you have it logged into your PSA registry or inventory?

After the trimming scandal, they have started decertifying cert numbers without even having the cards in hand now, so it could be something else. But Jackie should be able to get you the answers.

[swarmee]

This deserves a little more publicity. PSA gives two consecutive Joe Montana RCs PSA 10 GEM MT grades (SMR value $18K each), then recalls them because they are "mechanical errors."

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1428366

Why anyone trusts this POS company is beyond me.

Add: but they don't recall trimmed cards... or cards from known card trimmer consignors.

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Why anyone trusts this POS company is beyond me.

Add: but they don't recall trimmed cards... or cards from known card trimmer consignors.

Seems they do not mind occasionally admitting to an obvious mistake but they will never admit to being incompetent or corrupt by admitting they graded a bunch of altered cards.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Seems they do not mind occasionally admitting to an obvious mistake but they will never admit to being incompetent or corrupt by admitting they graded a bunch of altered cards.

Yep; they take a look at the ones sent back under the Grade Guarantee and re-certify them as unaltered! Oh to be the Emporer with no clothes.

[ullmandds]

Never get cheated!

[steve B]

Originally Posted by swarmee

This deserves a little more publicity. PSA gives two consecutive Joe Montana RCs PSA 10 GEM MT grades (SMR value $18K each), then recalls them because they are "mechanical errors."

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1428366

Why anyone trusts this POS company is beyond me.

Add: but they don't recall trimmed cards... or cards from known card trimmer consignors.

Maybe the kickback check on the Montanas didn't clear?

Just sort of kidding, I read the other threads at least up to the point where it was said that the dealer submitting was also very surprised.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by swarmee

After the trimming scandal, they have started decertifying cert numbers without even having the cards in hand now, so it could be something else. But Jackie should be able to get you the answers.

Seriously? PSA is de-certing numbers? How would they know what to de-cert? If it's based on the submitter, then something would really appear to be wrong. How could PSA de-cert without reviewing the card? Is there some type of "recourse" someone could have for PSA's actions? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

[swarmee]

Originally Posted by Fred

Seriously? PSA is de-certing numbers? How would they know what to de-cert? If it's based on the submitter, then something would really appear to be wrong. How could PSA de-cert without reviewing the card? Is there some type of "recourse" someone could have for PSA's actions? Sounds a bit fishy to me.

You should read a lot of the trimming threads on Blowout. PSA does. PSA has been shown buckets of evidence that they missed alterations and is starting to decertify altered cards before they even have them in hand. But the ones they decertify first are the ones that make them look incompetent, like the Dover reprint Cracker Jack from the 70s they labeled a 1915 card, despite having perforations.

And Ted does that; he hopes that by poking people in their chest, that they won't continue to expose PSA for the sack of shit they are. Completely incompetent and complicit in not protecting card collectors from the shenanigans they were founded to catch. "Never get cheated!"

[swarmee]

Here's another one that should go *poof* from the PSA cert numbers soon:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-....m46890.l49292

PSA 8 NM-MT Magic Johnson/Larry Bird RC with major paper loss on back.



My guess is that it was damaged when putting it into the slab. Quality control steps should have caught it.

[brob28]

Originally Posted by swarmee

Here's another one that should go *poof* from the PSA cert numbers soon:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Topps-....m46890.l49292

PSA 8 NM-MT Magic Johnson/Larry Bird RC with major paper loss on back.



My guess is that it was damaged when putting it into the slab. Quality control steps should have caught it.

As if the paper loss isn't enough look at the scuffing/marks on the front!

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by swarmee

And Ted does that; he hopes that by poking people in their chest, that they won't continue to expose PSA for the sack of shit they are. Completely incompetent and complicit in not protecting card collectors from the shenanigans they were founded to catch. "Never get cheated!"

You're the one chest poking time and time again, derailing threads with anti-PSA comments with no regard to the thread topic. While some are tuning in to see what happens with this Mantle, you are posting another card that should be removed. Not relevant.

Guess you are Anti-psa Unless it's to your advantage. Admittedly "buying psa card only to flip" in the other thread.

[swarmee]

Yep; taking advantage of their customers should be for everyone, right?

[Republicaninmass]

Same band of village idiots in every psa post, regardless of the topic. Careful now, your jealousy is showing!

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Republicaninmass

Same band of village idiots in every psa post, regardless of the topic. Careful now, your jealousy is showing!

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Yep, pretty sure that is why I talked crap about PSA in the past. Couldn't afford a expensive card and sad all my cards are not in PSA slabs.