Series #2 Card set for players Post 1930...who makes the 54 player cut?

[Golfcollector]

To recap, I have had a few polls and discussions over the past week or so as to designing a set of cards to feature players. Now comes the last thing to decide....

What players to put into the set.

The votes for the last poll of how to break down the players featured in the NET 54 Card set was almost a dead split tie….so to create even better and fun discussion (and since this was my idea….) The Net 54 Set will be comprised of 2 Series!

The 1st series will be for players that made an their first appearance in 1929 or earlier.

2nd series will be for players that made their first appearance in 1930 or later.

I have listed the checklist on the first post of this thread which I will update periodically when it seems like there is a strong consensus for inclusion.

Let the discussion begin!

Limiting this to 54 players should create a lot of good conversation. I am sure there will be disagreements. Try to keep it all respectful.





Card # Player
1 Jackie Robinson
2 Ted Williams
3 Mickey Mantle
4 Hank Aaron
5 Willie Mays
6 Warren Spahn
7 Stan Musial
8 Cool Papa Bell
9 Hank Greenberg
10 Ernie Banks
11 Bob Feller
12 Monte Irvin
13 Frank Robinson
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15
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54

[Golfcollector]

off to a good start

[Peter_Spaeth]

Cabrera. Trout. Kershaw. Scherzer. Verlander. Jeter. Rivera. Ford. Robin Roberts. Koufax. Drysdale. Eddie Mathews.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Brett Schmidt Carew Reggie Bench Rose Yaz Winfield Molitor Brooks Robinson Stargell

[Peter_Spaeth]

Morgan Murray Bonds Clemens Ryan Randy Johnson Maddux Glavine

[nat]

As with my suggestion on the other thread, I'm going to suggest interesting but not necessarily great players. Of course Mickey Mantle was awesome, he doesn't need to be celebrated in another card set for anyone to get that. But we can highlight interesting and/or underappreciated players.


How about:

Isao Harimoto - Japan's all-time hits leaders (and atom bomb survivor)
The Alou Brothers (they can share a card)
A card about players who actually saw combat in WWII (Spahn, etc.)
Mark Fidrych (he can be pictured talking to a baseball)

[BearBailey]

Pete Rose, Brooks Robinson, Steve Carlton, Greg Maddux, Barry Bonds, ivan Rodriguez, Cal Ripken.

[frankbmd]

Hodges, Snider, Reese, Erskine, Newcombe, Doby. Kuenn, Kaline, Whitaker, Trammell, Stargell, Brett, Sandberg, Canseco, Strawberry, Carlton, Boog Powell, Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, McNally, Seaver, Killebrew, Oliva, Podres, Minoso, Fox, Rivera, Kaat, Blyleven, Templeton, Ozzie Smith, Winfield, Friend, Konstanty, Stanky, Branca, Lockman, Rhodes, Avila, Garcia, Lemon, Wynn, Rosen, Hegan, Sievers, Pesky, Parnell, Yaz&#$=+-ski, Gibson, Hershiser, Garvey, Cey, Reggie Smith, Reggie Allen, Dawson, Covington, Crandall, Kluszewski, Banks, Dean Chance, Roseboro, Marichal, McCovey, Cepeda, Grissom, Gene Stephens, Colavito, Vince Coleman, Wills, Bill Russell, Willie Davis, Perranoski, Bando, Tenace, Callison, Lopata, Ashburn, Parker, Mazeroski, Billy Martin, Skowron, Elston Howard, Maris, Boudreau, Campanella, Gilliam, Furillo, Schoendienst, McCarver, Brock, Matt Williams and Mario Mendoza.

[Golfcollector]

Frank...that is a complete list! but...Bill Russell?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Golfcollector

Frank...that is a complete list! but...Bill Russell?

18 year Dodger shortstop, three time All Star, not the Celtic.

[Throttlesteer]

Charlie Gehringer, Mickey Cochrane, Arky Vaughan, Al Simmons, Bill Dickey, Lefty Grove

[jasonc]

Rose, Ripken, Bonds, Clemens, R.Henderson.

[toledo_mudhen]

Bret, Bonds, Rose, Yaz

[rats60]

Roberto Clemente
Sandy Koufax
Bob Gibson
Tom Seaver
Johnny Bench
Mike Schmidt
George Brett
Rickey Henderson
Cal Ripken
Ken Griffey Jr.

[rats60]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

Charlie Gehringer, Mickey Cochrane, Arky Vaughan, Al Simmons, Bill Dickey, Lefty Grove

Arky Vaughan is the only one that belongs on this list. Everyone else debuted before 1930 and would go on the other list.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Hodges, Snider, Reese, Erskine, Newcombe, Doby. Kuenn, Kaline, Whitaker, Trammell, Stargell, Brett, Sandberg, Canseco, Strawberry, Carlton, Boog Powell, Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, McNally, Seaver, Killebrew, Oliva, Podres, Minoso, Fox, Rivera, Kaat, Blyleven, Templeton, Ozzie Smith, Winfield, Friend, Konstanty, Stanky, Branca, Lockman, Rhodes, Avila, Garcia, Lemon, Wynn, Rosen, Hegan, Sievers, Pesky, Parnell, Yaz&#$=+-ski, Gibson, Hershiser, Garvey, Cey, Reggie Smith, Reggie Allen, Dawson, Covington, Crandall, Kluszewski, Banks, Dean Chance, Roseboro, Marichal, McCovey, Cepeda, Grissom, Gene Stephens, Colavito, Vince Coleman, Wills, Bill Russell, Willie Davis, Perranoski, Bando, Tenace, Callison, Lopata, Ashburn, Parker, Mazeroski, Billy Martin, Skowron, Elston Howard, Maris, Boudreau, Campanella, Gilliam, Furillo, Schoendienst, McCarver, Brock, Matt Williams and Mario Mendoza.

Gil, Duke, Peewee, Carl, Don, Larry, Harvey, Al, Lou, Alan, Willie, George, Ryne, Jose, Darryl, Steve, Boog, Brooks, Jim, Dave, Tom, Harmon, Tony, Johnny, Orestes, Nelson, Jim, Jim, Bert, Garry, Ozzie, Dave, Bob, Jim, Eddie, Ralph, Whitey, Dusty, Bobby, Mike, Bob, Early, Al, Mike, Roy, Johnny, Mel, Carl, Kurt and Bob but not Mel, Orel, Steve, Ron, Reggie, Reggie, Andre, Wes, Del, Ted, Ernie, Dean, John, Juan, Willie, Orlando, Marc, Gene, Rocky, Vince, Maury, Bill, Willie, Ron, Sal, Gene, Johnny, Stan, Richie, Dave, Bill, Billy, Bill, Elston, Roger, Lou, Roy, Junior, Carl, Red, Tim, Lou, Matt and Mario.

My apologies for the omission of most of the first names. My bad. Hope this helps to avoid confusion.

[rats60]

Doing the same as the other thread, I have 64 elected by BBWAA if I cut it off at 1975
Dizzy Dean
Joe DiMaggio
Hank Greenberg
Bob Feller
Jackie Robinson
Luke Appling
Ted Williams
Red Ruffing
Joe Medwick
Roy Campanella
Stan Musial
Lou Boudreau
Yogi Berra
Sandy Koufax
Early Wynn
Roberto Clemente
Warren Spahn
Whitey Ford
Mickey Mantle
Ralph Kiner
Bob Lemon
Robin Roberts
Ernie Banks
Eddie Mathews
Willie Mays
Al Kaline
Duke Snider
Bob Gibson
Hank Aaron
Frank Robinson
Juan Marichal
Brooks Robinson
Luis Aparicio
Don Drysdale
Harmon Killebrew
Lou Brock
Hoyt Wilhelm
Willie McCovey
Catfish Hunter
Billy Williams
Willie Stargell
Johnny Bench
Carl Yastrzemski
Joe Morgan
Jim Palmer
Rod Carew
Fergie Jenkins
Gaylord Perry
Rollie Fingers
Tom Seaver
Reggie Jackson
Steve Carlton
Mike Schmidt
Phil Niekro
Don Sutton
George Brett
Nolan Ryan
Robin Yount
Carlton Fisk
Dave Winfield
Gary Carter
Goose Gossage
Jim Rice
Bert Blyleven

2 players that I feel were over looked
Arky Vaughan
Johnny Mize

and 13 Negro Leaguers
Satchel Paige
Josh Gibson
Buck Leonard
Monte Irvin
Cool Papa Bell
Judy Johnson
Oscar Charleston
Martin Dihigo
Pop Lloyd
Ray Dandridge
Willie Wells
Larry Doby
Turkey Stearnes

I feel that the Negro Leagues should have their own set. So, that puts us at 66. I would cut the following 8, Fingers, Gossage, Hunter, Lemon, Aparicio, Kiner, Rice and Brock.

[frankbmd]

Chico Carresquel
Jose Valdivielso

[Bram99]

A couple of multi-player cards like the 53 Bowman colors:
The three who had 2 no hitters in one season.
A father and son card of the Griffey’s

[jasonc]

Can this be done on a voting format?

[Throttlesteer]

Adding Tony Gwynn if we're doing morecontemporary players

[frankh8147]

Originally Posted by nat

As with my suggestion on the other thread, I'm going to suggest interesting but not necessarily great players. Of course Mickey Mantle was awesome, he doesn't need to be celebrated in another card set for anyone to get that. But we can highlight interesting and/or underappreciated players.


How about:

Isao Harimoto - Japan's all-time hits leaders (and atom bomb survivor)
The Alou Brothers (they can share a card)
A card about players who actually saw combat in WWII (Spahn, etc.)
Mark Fidrych (he can be pictured talking to a baseball)

Considering Joe Di'maggio has one more vote than Darryl Strawberry and Greg Maddux is apparently competing with Robin Roberts, I think your idea might be a winner!

I vote Munson and Michael Jordan.

[Misunderestimated]

Just a some assorted favorites who I would want in a card set:
Ron Santo; Sandy Koufax; Barry Bonds; Sammy Sosa; Dock Ellis;
Michael Jordan; Tony Conigliaro; Steve Dalkowski; Randy Johnson;
Frank Thomas; Steve Trout; Ken Griffey Jr.; Rickey Henderson;
Willie Mays; Warren Spahn; Jim Abbott; Hank Aaron; Roger Maris
and Theo Epstein.

[Wite3]

My two cents-

Paige- technically debuted in the major leagues after the cut-off
Carlton, Ryan, Maddux- crafty, power, and finesse
Rickey Henderson- an all time great, and an oddball
Pee Wee Reese- On and off the field a great person and player
Richie Ashburn- one of my all time favorites
Reggie Jackson- power player and clutch
Winfield- all around great athlete and brought leadership to teams
Jeter- again, played in the spotlight with class and skill
Ichiro- still underrated, could hit anything at any time, speed, and fielding
Ken Griffey, Jr.- great during his time even when injuries took him
Cal Ripken, Jr.- ironman, tough, good glove, good bat, good brains
Koufax and Drysdale- both great
Ozzie Smith- brought flair back to the game, great fielder, decent hitter, fun
Bob Feller- nice guy, would sign and talk to anyone, oh, and he could pitch too!
Mike Schmidt- one of the greatest 3rd basemen ever.

Mickey Hatcher- determination, tough, and funny. And one of the best baseball quotes of all time..."I would rather be the worst player in the major leagues, than not be in the major leagues at all."

There are others...but my first thoughts.

[chalupacollects]

Vince Coleman???

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Hodges, Snider, Reese, Erskine, Newcombe, Doby. Kuenn, Kaline, Whitaker, Trammell, Stargell, Brett, Sandberg, Canseco, Strawberry, Carlton, Boog Powell, Brooks Robinson, Jim Palmer, McNally, Seaver, Killebrew, Oliva, Podres, Minoso, Fox, Rivera, Kaat, Blyleven, Templeton, Ozzie Smith, Winfield, Friend, Konstanty, Stanky, Branca, Lockman, Rhodes, Avila, Garcia, Lemon, Wynn, Rosen, Hegan, Sievers, Pesky, Parnell, Yaz&#$=+-ski, Gibson, Hershiser, Garvey, Cey, Reggie Smith, Reggie Allen, Dawson, Covington, Crandall, Kluszewski, Banks, Dean Chance, Roseboro, Marichal, McCovey, Cepeda, Grissom, Gene Stephens, Colavito, Vince Coleman, Wills, Bill Russell, Willie Davis, Perranoski, Bando, Tenace, Callison, Lopata, Ashburn, Parker, Mazeroski, Billy Martin, Skowron, Elston Howard, Maris, Boudreau, Campanella, Gilliam, Furillo, Schoendienst, McCarver, Brock, Matt Williams and Mario Mendoza.

[Throttlesteer]

Originally Posted by chalupacollects

Vince Coleman???

I was thinking the same thing, in addition to many others on the list. But hey, we all like who we like. I would have thought someone else would have mentioned Gwynn before Vince Coleman, Ron Cey, Marquis Grissom, etc...

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Throttlesteer

I was thinking the same thing, in addition to many others on the list. But hey, we all like who we like. I would have thought someone else would have mentioned Gwynn before Vince Coleman, Ron Cey, Marquis Grissom, etc...

I hesitate to further disappoint you, but the Grissom on my list was Marv, not Marquis. Willie Mays knows him, if you don’t.

I heartily endorse Mr. Gwynn as well.