Dee Gordon got 'Coached' !

[clydepepper]

Now let's see...barry bonds has been the Marlins' hitting coach how long?

One month's exposure to the 'coach' resulting in an 80-game ban for last year's batting champion*.

*- achieved without the 'coach'.

I think the use of asterisks will now be reversed, with 'clean' performances saddled with the mark. It will probably save overall typing strokes.

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[Rookiemonster]

I'm totally bummed about this guy. He had a good game and personality. I just picked up his 2008 autographed prospect card.

[chaddurbin]

a marginal major leaguer with the dodgers, now a batting champ with a 5yr/50mil contract...well played dee!

the potential financial windfall is too great that the risk is totally worth it. dee was a AAAA player, who was looking at maybe $5-10mil career earning? i don't see why other fringe prospects and career minor leaguers wouldn't do this....either they make the show, or get kicked out and become police officers (which they'd end up doing washing out on their own anyways).

[packs]

I just wish this guy and Colabello (another guy who couldn't crack an awful Twins line up who mysteriously hits 321 over night) wwould admit to what they did. They're both playing dumb. We get it guys, you weren't good enough. We all understand what's at stake. Just fess up already.

[glynparson]

He has gained 30 pounds (appears to be all muscle) over the last 3 years that is not due to Bonds he put the bulk of that on before Bonds was made hitting coach.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by packs

I just wish this guy and Colabello (another guy who couldn't crack an awful Twins line up who mysteriously hits 321 over night) wwould admit to what they did. They're both playing dumb. We get it guys, you weren't good enough. We all understand what's at stake. Just fess up already.

Not telling the whole truth worked out awesome for former Twins bench warmer David Ortiz.

[Topps206]

This is why the innocent are also the accused.

[packs]

David Ortiz failed a drug test though. He is not innocent.

[Piratedogcardshows]

I knew Bonds' name would turn up somewhere in all of this. Yes Dee Gordon has been slowly building bulk up for years before coming into contact with Bonds. Move on to another witch hunt already.

[D.P.Johnson]

His dirty test was from Spring Training. I doubt Bonds showed up and immediately convinced him he needed to stick a needle in his *ss...

[irv]

Originally Posted by packs

I just wish this guy and Colabello (another guy who couldn't crack an awful Twins line up who mysteriously hits 321 over night) wwould admit to what they did. They're both playing dumb. We get it guys, you weren't good enough. We all understand what's at stake. Just fess up already.

Being a Jays fan I am obviously biased but I believe Collabello when he says he didn't intentionally take a banned substance.

Seems more and more, like the famous tennis player, that new drugs are put on this list that are now deemed as performance enhancing, but I can't help but also think, with what is put in our food/drink nowadays, that some of these steroids also get put in them?

I am all for drug testing and I detest the cheaters to no end, but I also think mistakes are made and/or these are getting into peoples bodies by other means than simply knowingly ingesting them.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...234308256.html
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...eking-answers/

[chaddurbin]

when a career indepedent league guy couldn't get a look from an mlb club until his late 20's and was dfa'd by a couple teams suddenly had a great year in his early 30's...i'm gonna go with occam's razor for the explanation. keep digging for what could've caused this colabello like oj is still looking for nicole's murderer.

[pawpawdiv9]

Damn, I thought this was about the Whitney Houston and daughter deaths.
As I thought the title was referring how Gordon was 'coached' into his statements to the media and live tv. 'insert his tears here' and spouting off at Bobby
My bad, his name was Nick Gordon.

[clydepepper]

I was very disappointed when Collabello became part of all this. His long trail through to the majors through Independent League Baseball was a feel-good story.

Reminded me of seeing Greg Zaun in the Mitchell Report - After I had seen him 'Call His Shot' in the 1999 Hall-of-Fame Game (Yeah, he actually DID do it!!).

Originally Posted by irv

Being a Jays fan I am obviously biased but I believe Collabello when he says he didn't intentionally take a banned substance.

Seems more and more, like the famous tennis player, that new drugs are put on this list that are now deemed as performance enhancing, but I can't help but also think, with what is put in our food/drink nowadays, that some of these steroids also get put in them?

I am all for drug testing and I detest the cheaters to no end, but I also think mistakes are made and/or these are getting into peoples bodies by other means than simply knowingly ingesting them.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...234308256.html
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...eking-answers/

[D. Bergin]

80 games? I haven't kept up with the new guidelines. Does this mean he's been caught before and warned, or is this for 1st time offenses now?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by irv

Being a Jays fan I am obviously biased but I believe Collabello when he says he didn't intentionally take a banned substance.

Seems more and more, like the famous tennis player, that new drugs are put on this list that are now deemed as performance enhancing, but I can't help but also think, with what is put in our food/drink nowadays, that some of these steroids also get put in them?

I am all for drug testing and I detest the cheaters to no end, but I also think mistakes are made and/or these are getting into peoples bodies by other means than simply knowingly ingesting them.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...234308256.html
http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb...eking-answers/

Yeah, a part of me wonders if all the crap they put in livestock nowadays, eventually ends up in our bodies at testable levels.

Not saying that's what happened with these guys, just something I've thought about.

[HRBAKER]

As long as the reward far, far outweighs the risk - this is what you are going to have. 50 million dollars will pay for a lot of shame.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Yeah, a part of me wonders if all the crap they put in livestock nowadays, eventually ends up in our bodies at testable levels.Not saying that's what happened with these guys, just something I've thought about.

Well, I do put a lot of livestock in my body, but I don't think I'm any stronger.

[packs]

I encourage you and everyone else not to eat the poison they call food at the supermarket. Do yourself a favor and eat organic. Otherwise you're eating mutants.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by packs

I encourage you and everyone else not to eat the poison they call food at the supermarket. Do yourself a favor and eat organic. Otherwise you're eating mutants.

- and they taste soooo good!

[packs]

There's no arguing that.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Well, I do put a lot of livestock in my body, but I don't think I'm any stronger.

Hmmm, I swear I did not have inside information:


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15...-positive-test

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Hmmm, I swear I did not have inside information:


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15...-positive-test

Truly spoken like a man who has never had mutant-berry stew...YUM!
- makes your teeth big and white and your skin green:



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[Griffins]

Originally Posted by packs

I encourage you and everyone else not to eat the poison they call food at the supermarket. Do yourself a favor and eat organic. Otherwise you're eating mutants.

I worked at a pioneering health food store for 4 years- don't fool yourself on the organics.

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by packs

David Ortiz failed a drug test though. He is not innocent.

Bahahahahaahaha. Yet he is in the Boston/Public eye. I've never seen a bigger mouthed moronic, self-centered, egotistical player than him.

Many Boston writers have written on him and the fact he got a "free pass" on the whole steroid thing and should just shut his fat mouth and stop complaining. He thinks he's above the game for some reason.

Looks like the combination of grimace and a snapping turtle.

I couldn't stand Clemens, and Bonds, but god to I loathe Fat Sloppy.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Bahahahahaahaha. Yet he is in the Boston/Public eye. I've never seen a bigger mouthed moronic, self-centered, egotistical player than him.

Many Boston writers have written on him and the fact he got a "free pass" on the whole steroid thing and should just shut his fat mouth and stop complaining. He thinks he's above the game for some reason.

Looks like the combination of grimace and a snapping turtle.

I couldn't stand Clemens, and Bonds, but god to I loathe Fat Sloppy.

A lot of guys that were probably positive before there was a solid testing program or for that matter, any at all got the same free pass. The guys like Bonds, Arod, and others continued to do stuff after the testing program got in place. I'll take ego over ego + stupidity.

Baseballs testing is pretty weak compared to other sports and even the insane testing in sports like cycling doesn't catch everyone. Those guys have to report even their off season plans, who they're training with and where and when. And have to notify the governing authority of any changes. Not doing that is considered a positive and usually gets a ban.

And pretty much every supermarket is full of stuff that Olympic level athletes can't eat.

Steve B

[chaddurbin]

i don't believe bonds ever failed a mlb-sanctioned drug test? even though everybody knew he did it, it takes true conviction for the guy to keep lying up thru the judicial system and eventually beating the fed, that's narcissim to a whole 'nother level and you gotta admire that. he didn't cower behind the 5th amendment like mcgwire or acted like he just stepped off the boat like sosa...he gritted his teeth and lied straight to their faces!

it's a whacked world where dawson and jim rice are hof'ers and barry's not...but i digress. what where we talking about? arrieta on ped?

[packs]

Didn't Bonds pay his trainer to languish in jail for years just so he could save his reputation? That's pretty low. Might even be worse than outright failing.

[HRBAKER]

No, you don't have to admire that.

[HRBAKER]

Originally Posted by packs

Didn't Bonds pay his trainer to languish in jail for years just so he could save his reputation? That's pretty low. Might even be worse than outright failing.

That was not money well spent, meaning he didn't save it.