Very Upset With Myself

[margoaepi]

I'm not a big ebayer, so I thought I had this card in the bag with a reserve bid well above where it was with 30 seconds left to go. Simply didn't have enough time when I got outbid with 5 seconds left. Great looking card though. If anyone on here got it, I'd happily take it off your hands. http://www.ebay.com/itm/220944306861...#ht_500wt_1413

[travrosty]

What I do is I bid the very highest I am willing to go right off the bat, then no need to get outbid or sniped at the end.

No need to try to snipe either. Just bid the highest amount you would possibly pay for the card, an amount you absolutely wouldnt pay 1 penny more if someone was breaking your arm, then if you get outbid, no regrets, and you don't have to try to outbid someone else either.

You might get it for less than your top amount too.

[Robextend]

I'd much rather just set a snipe and not have to worry about anything else.

I set a snipe over an ebay max bid because I don't want the price to keep being driven up because of my max bid.

[smtjoy]

Agree with Rob, you win a whole lot more when you start snipping and pay a lot less.

[slidekellyslide]

At least it's nice to see that someone bought that for the card and not the holder. That's a great looking card.

[Gary Dunaier]

Originally Posted by travrosty

What I do is I bid the very highest I am willing to go right off the bat, then no need to get outbid or sniped at the end.

No need to try to snipe either. Just bid the highest amount you would possibly pay for the card, an amount you absolutely wouldnt pay 1 penny more if someone was breaking your arm, then if you get outbid, no regrets, and you don't have to try to outbid someone else either.

You might get it for less than your top amount too.

Thank you!

If somebody is willing to pay more for an item than you are, it doesn't matter if they place their bid at the start of the auction or with one second left to go. I understand it's a strategy thing - I do it myself sometimes - and if the item is a rare one, losing out on it can be very frustrating. But the fact of the matter is that even if you wind up losing by one increment over your top bid, you have absolutely no idea what the guy's max bid was.

[HaloFan]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

Thank you!

If somebody is willing to pay more for an item than you are, it doesn't matter if they place their bid at the start of the auction or with one second left to go. I understand it's a strategy thing - I do it myself sometimes - and if the item is a rare one, losing out on it can be very frustrating. But the fact of the matter is that even if you wind up losing by one increment over your top bid, you have absolutely no idea what the guy's max bid was.

I know virtually everyone here snipes, but I am of the camp that prefers to put in the max bid right from the start and make someone knock me off. I have not done the statistics, but for me when I've sniped the results has been mixed. Often I did not win and if I did, got it at a price much higher than comparable BINs. I just make sure that if I'm going to lose, the other guy will not get a deal. With scarce cards that you don't see too often and is up auction style you don't have much of a choice; you will see sniping in the end, but with more common cards, I don't get too upset getting knocked off with a snipe. Just saying.

Craig

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by HaloFan

I know virtually everyone here snipes, but I am of the camp that prefers to put in the max bid right from the start and make someone knock me off. I have not done the statistics, but for me when I've sniped the results has been mixed. Often I did not win and if I did, got it at a price much higher than comparable BINs. I just make sure that if I'm going to lose, the other guy will not get a deal. With scarce cards that you don't see too often and is up auction style you don't have much of a choice; you will see sniping in the end, but with more common cards, I don't get too upset getting knocked off with a snipe. Just saying.

Craig

Right on target.

if everyone snipes, then no one is really sniping. its just putting in your max bid and it doesn't matter if you put it in right away or with one second left.

now if someone snipes and you lose out because you would have topped his last second snipe bid, then you yourself did not put in your max bid, either right away or sniping. that's your fault. why would you not put in your absolute maximum bid and let it get away? that's what i don't get.

sniping isn't a surprise move. everyone knows the other guy is going to snipe, all the more important to put in your absolute max bid, and let the chips fall where they may, whether you snipe or not, so it doesnt really mater if you snipe. It's a strategy but not really.

now many people say that they would have paid another dollar for the item, even over their absolute max bid, but then again, you don't know the max bid of the other guy, so one dollar more turns into 20. turns into 100. turns into 300. Figure out your super absolute crazy max bid and bid it and stick with it and there is never a need to snipe. if people like to snipe, that's fine, but its not really sniping anything.

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Right on target.

if everyone snipes, then no one is really sniping. its just putting in your max bid and it doesn't matter if you put it in right away or with one second left.

now if someone snipes and you lose out because you would have topped his last second snipe bid, then you yourself did not put in your max bid, either right away or sniping. that's your fault. why would you not put in your absolute maximum bid and let it get away? that's what i don't get.

sniping isn't a surprise move. everyone knows the other guy is going to snipe, all the more important to put in your absolute max bid, and let the chips fall where they may, whether you snipe or not, so it doesnt really mater if you snipe. It's a strategy but not really.

now many people say that they would have paid another dollar for the item, even over their absolute max bid, but then again, you don't know the max bid of the other guy, so one dollar more turns into 20. turns into 100. turns into 300. Figure out your super absolute crazy max bid and bid it and stick with it and there is never a need to snipe. if people like to snipe, that's fine, but its not really sniping anything.

Sometimes you do know that the other person's max bid wasn't much higher than your own.

Recently I won an ebay auction with a bid just 12cents higher than the under bidder. My max bid just happened to beat the other buyer by that much. Since I got mine in first it didn't matter that my bid wasn't at the actual bid increment that it was suppose to be. So in this case had the under bidder had time he (or she) could have quickly increased their bid by the minimum increment amount and won it.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Gary Dunaier

Thank you!

If somebody is willing to pay more for an item than you are, it doesn't matter if they place their bid at the start of the auction or with one second left to go. I understand it's a strategy thing - I do it myself sometimes - and if the item is a rare one, losing out on it can be very frustrating. But the fact of the matter is that even if you wind up losing by one increment over your top bid, you have absolutely no idea what the guy's max bid was.

This is exactly right, that's why there is really no such thing as sniping.

You don't know what his max bid was, and if it is larger than your max bid, it doesnt matter whether you snipe or bid your max bid right away, as long as you max bid the largest amount you would possibly ever consider paying if your life was on the line and you wouldnt pay one penny more, then you have bid your max bid and if someone bids more, they get it, if they don't, they don't.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by travrosty

What I do is I bid the very highest I am willing to go right off the bat, then no need to get outbid or sniped at the end.

No need to try to snipe either. Just bid the highest amount you would possibly pay for the card, an amount you absolutely wouldnt pay 1 penny more if someone was breaking your arm, then if you get outbid, no regrets, and you don't have to try to outbid someone else either.

You might get it for less than your top amount too.

And you might get someone eating into your ceiling bid. Better just leave a snipe. It's free and easy:

www.gavelsnipe.com

[JohnP0621]

I was also thinking about bidding on this item but it was past my max bid when I was ready to bid. Was the color faded . If not why did it only get a 2?

Also What is a snipe bid?

John P

[GrayGhost]

Originally Posted by JohnP0621

I was also thinking about bidding on this item but it was past my max bid when I was ready to bid. Was the color faded . If not why did it only get a 2?

Also What is a snipe bid?

John P

A Snipe bid is the use of a service, such as Gavel snipe, where you can put in a bid on there, and the service bids for you w/in the closing seconds of the auction. It will only bid what is needed at the time of the snipe, up to your "snipe amount"

I used Gavel snipe for my occassional bidding on the bay, and it mostly works very well.

[slidekellyslide]

Originally Posted by GrayGhost

A Snipe bid is the use of a service, such as Gavel snipe, where you can put in a bid on there, and the service bids for you w/in the closing seconds of the auction. It will only bid what is needed at the time of the snipe, up to your "snipe amount"

I used Gavel snipe for my occassional bidding on the bay, and it mostly works very well.

You just have to remember to reset your gavelsnipe passwords if you change your ebay password. Made that mistake on an item I wanted very badly.

[tonyo]

I learned the lesson the hard way too, : If I'm sitting at my keyboard with 30 seconds to go, I wait another 25 seconds and put in my max bid with 5 seconds to go. Just like a snipe service, but I don't use those for some reason. Probably a combination of too lazy, too cheap, and something about it just doesn't seem sporting to me!

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by tonyo

I learned the lesson the hard way too, : If I'm sitting at my keyboard with 30 seconds to go, I wait another 25 seconds and put in my max bid with 5 seconds to go. Just like a snipe service, but I don't use those for some reason. Probably a combination of too lazy, too cheap, and something about it just doesn't seem sporting to me!

I use Gavelsnipe; it is a free sniping service.

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by Robextend

I use Gavelsnipe; it is a free sniping service.

free? OK I'm down to too lazy and "something doesn't seem sporting"

[JohnP0621]

Thanks for the info on the snipe bid. I always wondered how I got outbid on some items when I put in a last second bid that was much higher than the previous bid.

Does anyone know if that card was faded or a color variation?

JP

[Clark7781]

I only use gavelsnipe.com for ebay bids. I find an auction I like, decide on a price that I will pay for it, enter it into gavelsnipe.com and forget about it. That way I don't get into a bidding war at the very end of the auction and pay too much for something.

For me it works.

[bbcard1]

I use auctionsniper and have been happy with it. Don't snipe as much as I once did. There was a time when you could follow what other people were bidding on and it was a pain because I started getting a couple of guys who bid on what I wanted simply following me, hence I had to find a snipe solution.