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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Karl
I don't have one of these in my Killebrew collection yet, but I'm confused as to which "version" I should pursue. The Standard Catalog suggests that the "true" card is the 3rd one pictured below - with the extra inch of border at the top. However, PSA seems to draw no distinction between any of the ways these can be cut, and from what I've seen prices seem to be pretty much the same for 3 of the 4 (all except the full packaging). Any opinions on these cards would be most welcome. Thanks. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: JDRUM
IMO, the grader that gave the top copy an "8" probably had/has no idea what the card looks like in its original form. That could be the only reason/explanation that got a number grade much less an 8. I would say either 3 or 4. HOw rare is the card? If you never ever see it and a copy like the first one comes up then you may have to go with it. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Todd Schultz
and in my opinion, the first PSA example is a card, the full length and longest version is a complete wiener wrapper, as opposed to a porkette wrapper, and the one in the middle is a Wiener panel, again different than a porkette panel. I love them all. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Paul
It may just be a matter of personal preference, but I would definitely want one with the full yellow border (like example 2). Examples 3 and 4 are great as well, but are more akin to complete packages. I have just one in my collection (Kaat) and it has the yellow border. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Todd Schultz
if you want the full yellow border, you would probably want the porkette panel. The second example is a trimmed panel, almost certainly from a weiner wrapper. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Anthony N.
Todd- is there a noticeable difference in scarcity between the weiners and porkettes? I'd heard porkettes were tougher, but couldn't ascertain if that was slightly tougher or considerably tougher. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Todd Schultz
yes, the porkette wrappers are noticeably scarcer than their wiener counterparts--I would say by 3 to 1. I was only two when these cards came out, so I don't have any real memory of their circulation, although I do recall as a youngster that the wieners themselves were a popular brand. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Karl
Todd, thanks much for the info and scan. I've never seen the porkette wrapper before - if I ever have the luxury of choosing, it looks like that would be what I'd want. The porkette panel card appears to need no "discretionary" cutting, so the card would have a more natural and presumably cleaner border and edge. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Todd Schultz
I hope you find one to your liking. There is a complete set of wiener wrappers in the current Legendary auction, as well as a complete graded set of the cards on ebay. |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Dave Hornish
Those are great cards and wrappers but does anyone else find it disturbing there once was a product named "porkette"?! |
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1961 Peters Meats Confusion
Posted By: Brian Powell
Hi guys. I can tell you why you'll see complete sets of unfolded boxes (technically, the cardboard cover wrapping of the cellophane packages) of the 1961 Peters Meats Twins. After their promotion was over, the Wholesale Cards Company of New York/Connecticut purchased their leftover unfolded boxes. I believe it was Marshall Oreck that owned Wholesale Cards at the time. Several years later, Bruce Yeko bought Oreck's business. |
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