Fake 1915 Cracker Jack in PSA holder...wow!

[CrackaJackKid]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/392991975744

[biggsdaddycool]

I trust your assessment. For my own knowledge advancement, what stands out to you about this card that makes you believe it to be fake?

Mike


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[scooter729]

Yeah, it looks like it even has perforations along the edges of the card!

Bottom edge of the PSA case looks pretty frosty - probably a crack out and slip this fugazi in there in its place? I know we all want to rip on PSA, but I don't think PSA would miss one like this....

[Donscards]

Yes that is a reprint Cracker Jack---case has been played with--Bad card for sure.

[CrackaJackKid]

I realize most are quick to defend PSA, but could someone please point out definitively where the case has been tampered with from the pics cause I’m not seeing it.

[tiger8mush]

plus the 1915's should have upside down backs.

[tiger8mush]

There are SO many things wrong with it - the colors, the borders, the edges, the image, the non upside down back, the color on the back - that I don't believe any TPG would encapsulate it.

Comparison ...

[3-2-count]

See post #33 in the below link

https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=279704

[oldeboo]

I posted this in another thread, but here are some easy ones that alerted me.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

There are SO many things wrong with it - the colors, the borders, the edges, the image, the non upside down back, the color on the back - that I don't believe any TPG would encapsulate it.

Guess I was wrong.

[commishbob]

Gotta be a switched out card. Ray Charles would know that card is a Dover. Even a first-day-on-the-job grader couldn’t miss the perforation evidence. If PSA actually graded and slabbed that they should shut their doors.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by commishbob

Gotta be a switched out card. Ray Charles would know that card is a Dover. Even a first-day-on-the-job grader couldn’t miss the perforation evidence. If PSA actually graded and slabbed that they should shut their doors.

I posted this in the other thread concerning the 1914 Cracker Jacks. It's either a case of PSA messing up, or the reproduction of a genuine slab is getting so good at this point that, unless your an expert, you're not going to be able to tell.

I want to give the seller the benefit of the doubt, especially considering he pulled the auction but wow, this is not a good luck for PSA if this error was on them. Trimmed and Altered cards, receiving number grades were bad enough as it is, if they're slabbing fakes as real, then this opens up a whole new can of worms.

[Jgrace]

Unbelievable. It’s such an obvious fake I can’t even wrap my head around it. The perforations alone...

Reinforces the need to do your homework on slabbed cards. Caveat emptor, etc.

[swarmee]

For posterity. Before they zero out the cert number...

[JollyElm]

Can someone explain the perforations issue to us non-CJ collectors? In the comparison graphic posted, it looks like both the 'real' card and the Dover reprint have perforations, just to a different extent. Is that the case, or do the originals have no perforations...or is it something else??

[oldeboo]

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Can someone explain the perforations issue to us non-CJ collectors? In the comparison graphic posted, it looks like both the 'real' card and the Dover reprint have perforations, just to a different extent. Is that the case, or do the originals have no perforations...or is it something else??

A genuine card is just a normal straight cut like most other cards. The Dover reprints have the perforations. Printing anomalies are also very easy to pickup on the Dover reprints. Here is an example from Ebay of how the Dover cards came, I believe. You could easily tear them apart at the perforations if desired.

In the comparison above in this thread, a known Dover is being compared to the questionable card. Well not really questionable, honestly.

It's a common trick for scammers to stain these cards, trim the edges, and rub off where it says REPRINT and stain over that spot to trick the unsuspected. Whoever doctored this one just chose to rub the perforation nubs down a little instead of trimming.

[JollyElm]

But, I'm confused. Here is the graphic I mentioned. The 'real' card situated above the 'Dover Reprint' seems to have perforations across the top...

Mack Fake 2.jpg

[Bcwcardz]

I wouldn’t trust them. They want to buy back their mistake. I would hang on to it until they actual had some more concrete terms for compensation. PSA hasn’t been known as trustworthy. It’s just my opinion and I hope everything goes well for the owner of said card.


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[Gorditadogg]

Dave, thanks for sharing your very interesting story. You gotta realize that most people on this site are full of poop. Nobody was goong to get into a bidding war over that card.

I hope you keep your Dover reprint and enjoy it.

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[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Gorditadogg

Dave, thanks for sharing your very interesting story. You gotta realize that most people on this site are full of poop. Nobody was goong to get into a bidding war over that card.

I hope you keep your Dover reprint and enjoy it.

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I can guarantee you are WRONG.

[Fred]

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