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![]() Scott That is a really nice AB 460 Crawford. One of the finest I've seen. TED Z __________________________________________________ ____________________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set AMES....CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....McGRAW (port-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....Wiltse (portrait-cap) |
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Thank you for the kind words Ted. I fell in love with the card when I saw it.
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Steve
Nice Arellanes AB 350 card. Caine Nice Ford AB 460 card. Thanks for posting your American Beauty's. TED Z __________________________________________________ ____________________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....McGRAW (port-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....Wiltse (portrait-cap) . Last edited by tedzan; 12-06-2016 at 10:22 AM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Vinnie Tough AB 350 card, your Manning. Thanks for posting. Here's its AB 460 counterpart. There are 19 subjects in the 350/460 series that were printed with both the AB 350 (no frame) back and the AB 460 back. ![]() ![]() I will list these AMERICAN BEAUTY's in my next post here. TED Z Last edited by tedzan; 02-09-2020 at 05:45 PM. Reason: Updated scans. |
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FYI....American Litho. printed the following 19 subjects from the 350/460 series with both the AB 350 (no frame) back and the AB 460 back.
![]() Burch (fielding) Conroy (bat) Crawford (bat) Jennings (both hands) Jordan (bat) Lake (St Louis-no ball) Leifield (bat) Manning (pitching) McQuillan (bat) Mullin (bat) Overall (hand-face level) Pelty (vertical) Pfeister (throwing) Steinfeldt (bat) Wagner (bat-right shoulder) Wilhelm (bat) Willetts Willis (bat) Wiltse (pitching) TED Z __________________________________________________ ____________________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....McGRAW (port-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....Wiltse (portrait-cap) . Last edited by tedzan; 12-06-2016 at 10:25 AM. |
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Thank you Ted. I love the Crawford!
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Nice John.
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![]() Hey John Some super-sharp looking AB's....and, a great looking litho. to go with them. Thanks for sharing them. TED Z |
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Mr. McDaniel,
What is the story with the AB painting? It is really a beautiful piece. |
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Listed here are the 9 subjects from the 350/460 series which American Litho. printed ONLY with the AB 460 back. ![]() Berger Bradley (bat) Cobb (bat off shoulder) Jennings (one hand) Lajoie (bat) Leach (bending over) Frank Smith (Chicago & Boston) Tinker (bat off shoulder) Doc White (pitching) TED Z __________________________________________________ ______________________________________ LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 cards) CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (portrait)....JORDAN (bat)....McGRAW (portrait-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....Wiltse (portrait-cap) . Last edited by tedzan; 12-06-2016 at 10:29 AM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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I was checking out this old thread since I picked up this Ford AB460 last night from Sterling, and a few months back I added the Knight Batting AB350 Frame. Let's see some ABs that you guys have grabbed since this thread was last bumped!
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Pfeffer - AB 460
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One of several AB 460 cards that I have acquired for my American Beauty 460 sub-set since this thread was last active (6/16/13)..............
![]() ![]() Thanks Leighton for a nice trade for this AB "toughie". TED Z __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ LOOKING for these 5 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 cards) CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder) . Last edited by tedzan; 12-06-2016 at 10:31 AM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Just a few. Oldring is in a SGC 6 holder now.
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Here are some more AB 460 cards that I have acquired for my American Beauty 460 sub-set since this thread was last active (6/16/13).............. . ![]() ![]() ![]() Thanks...... Rob A ...... Al C ...... Pete G ......respectively, for these three AB 460 cards (Latham is an upgrade). TED Z __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ LOOKING for these 5 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 cards) CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder) . Last edited by tedzan; 02-14-2020 at 07:52 PM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Really nice collection of American Beauty's.
Thanx for showing them. Best regards, ole buddy, TED Z Last edited by tedzan; 02-09-2014 at 09:01 PM. |
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I'll keep it going with a new pickup of mine, with a bit of a WST on the back...
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Many years ago, a long-time hobby fixture in Ohio told me this. American Beauty white borders came in "8" count packets and American Beauty gold borders came in "10" count packs.
My old friend who educated me on much of these cards was a pleasant old timer named Al Clement. Al was a fixture alongside Geoff Sindelar in the early days of the outstanding Cleveland area/Strongsville Holiday Inn spring show that Fusco Auctions handles now. Well, he had the entire set minus Honus and was extremely knowledgable in those sets and their packs. |
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![]() ![]() Shown above is the standard (10-cigarette) pack, circa 1910. It's my understanding that the narrower (8-cigarette) American Beauty packs were introduced sometime in 1911. Hence, the Gold-Bordered cards (T205, T42, etc.) were more likely to be inserted in these packs; and, therefore cut thinner. Methinks American Litho started cutting the T206's thinner in anticipation of the narrower AB packs. I have 105 T206's with AB backs....22 - AB 350 frame.... 14 - AB 350 no frame....69 - AB 460. Their widths vary all over the place. This Davy Jones is the "fattest" of my AB cards (exactly the width of a normal T206 card). v.................... 1 7/16" .....................v ![]() ![]() I don't claim to be an expert on cigarette packs, so any inputs regarding this topic are welcomed. TED Z __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ LOOKING for these 5 - T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 cards) CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap) McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off shoulder) . Last edited by tedzan; 02-14-2020 at 07:49 PM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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Not many T205 black AMERICAN BEAUTY (AB) cards have been on display in this thread. However, many T205 Green AMERICAN BEAUTY cards have been posted.
T205 subjects with a black AB back are the link to "A-B-C-D" connection. A theory I posted several years ago. I have complete confidence in my A-B-C-D theory. Check it out.... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=t205+A-B-C-D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() American Lithographic printed exactly 32 - T205 subjects with this A = B = C = D connection. The key factor in this A = B = C = D equation is the Black AB back. Note that the T205 subjects with Green American Beauty backs will NOT be found with DRUM backs. T205 A-B-C-D checklist......32 subjects James Austin John Bates Beals Becker George Bell William Bergen Russell Blackburne Albert Bridwell Mordecai Brown Harold Chase (border on shirt) Frank Corridon Thomas Downey Louis Evans George Graham (blue signature) Buck Herzog Richard Hoblitzell Miller Huggins Jack Knight A. Latham Thomas Leach John Lobert Briscoe Lord Patrick Moran Frederick Olmstead George Paskert Fred Payne Edward Phelps John Quinn Lewis Richie David Shean George Stone Zach Wheat Harry Wolter The above 5 subjects in bold print have yet to be confirmed with a DRUM back. However, they already have been confirmed with the A - B - C backs. Therefore, I expect these 5 subjects will eventually be discovered with the DRUM back. Hey guys....let's see some more T205 black American Beauty cards. TED Z . |
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I was lucky enough to come across the following "marriage" of AB items at a local Flea Market a few years back. I realize that the tin is unrelated; but the "Flea Marketeer" spun such a wonderful tale of BS that I just had to buy...
...plus he was asking $32 for the pair... |
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Just got my 1st American Beauty card this week.
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I have added some more "Beauties" since I posted early on in this thread.
Here are a few more favorites: Patrick |
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Hi Patrick
Nice cards....especially the AB 460 Meyers. I had a tough time finding this Meyers for my AB 460 back run. Thanks for posting them. TED Z . |
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Anyone know where at in Virginia these cigarettes were made?
Edit: A little more digging, and I found this. http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=211636
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Great cards everyone......at this point, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to this thread.
This Zach Wheat card was my first AB 460. It has a certain appeal to me which motivated me to start my AB 460 back run in 2005. ![]() ![]() TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 11-16-2020 at 10:45 AM. Reason: Updated scan. |
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Just upgraded my Wheat AB 460...
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Hey Mike
Great looking Zach, thanks for posting it. TED Z . |
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Thanks Ted, you bet.
Your collection is inspiring, amazing job. |
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![]() Thanks, Mike Not trying to compete with you, but here are the 2 highest graded cards in my American Beauty 460 run. My cards in this sub-set range from "A" to these two grades. 350/460 series . ![]() ![]() 460-only series ![]() ![]() TED Z __________________________________________________ _____________________________________ LOOKING for these 4 - T206 subjects to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set (74 cards) CAMNITZ (hands over head)....DOYLE (portrait)....McGRAW (portrait-cap)....TINKER (bat off shoulder) . Last edited by tedzan; 12-17-2016 at 07:15 AM. Reason: Correct typo. |
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