Stolen Card 1888 S.F. Hess N321 Newhert

[danmckee]

To the POS scumbag and BALLZIE Punk that stole this card off of my table at the Chantilly show this past Friday while I was setting up and in the middle of dealing with another friend of mine, be very glad that I did not catch you in the act. Heck I am glad I didn't catch you because I am not sure my booth partner would have been able to stop me from caving your skull in.

After being robbed and having our entire showcases removed over night at the 1991 National, I always said God help me if I ever catch someone stealing from me again.

Stolen Card attached, keep your eyes open for me and if you see it, kindly just let me know, I will take it from there. Thanks r337man@yahoo.com.

[rjackson44]

Card is rare tuff to move what a pos to do this ,,hope it works out dan best octavio

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by rjackson44

Card is rare tuff to move what a pos to do this ,,hope it works out dan best octavio

Yes hopefully by me posting it all over God's creation, he won't be able to sell it. Then it will be worth as much to him as it is to me now since I no longer have it.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Yes hopefully by me posting it all over God's creation, he won't be able to sell it. Then it will be worth as much to him as it is to me now since I no longer have it.

Sorry to hear of this, Dan. Karma is a MOFO though. So the perp should have bad luck....
Maybe someone will see the card, with it's unique characteristics, and let you know. Hope all is well otherwise, my friend.
.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Sorry to hear of this, Dan. Karma is a MOFO though. So the perp should have bad luck....
Maybe someone will see the card, with it's unique characteristics, and let you know. Hope all is well otherwise, my friend.
.

Thanks buddy! Yea if it pops up, he can't hide it!

Doing super otherwise my friend and thanks for the kind thoughts!

Dan

[NiceDocter]

Man I hate to see this . Will keep a lookout at our local shows down here. Card has a amazing 3-D quality to it with the tip of his bat outside the frame of the card. Don’t recall seeing another card with this effect.

[Lucas00]

Nice talking with you at the show Dan. Really a shame this happened to you. Hopefully there was a camera running somewhere that got a good look.

[HercDriver]

I hate to see this stuff…makes me feel like we all got kicked in the crotch. And who else did the a-hole rob at the show? Anyway, I was wondering if it would be worth a category for scans like this, where they’re all together in one spot. That way if you had a suspect card, it would be way easier to find, than searching for threads you seem to remember. It would be best if it didn’t have replies, unless relevant to the chase, as it would keep the scans on a few pages, not buried by replies not relevant to the recovery, like this one. Just a thought…

Cheers,
Geno

[jbsports33]

Sorry to hear, got to be real careful at these shows now - seems to happen more often then you think - have had issues even at smaller shows and large shows in the New England area

I will keep my eyes open this summer!

Jimmy

[SyrNy1960]

Pisses me off every time I hear this happening to someone. Hope you eventually are able to recover the card.

[Jay Wolt]

Dan hope you catch the bastard

[Fred]

Originally Posted by danmckee

After being robbed and having our entire showcases removed over night at the 1991 National, I always said God help me if I ever catch someone stealing from me again.

Was that an Anaheim National? I forgot the name of the other dealer at the table that got fleeced. He was a great guy. I remember being in the area (east coast, I think outside Baltimore) and going to his home back in the late 90s and purchasing a lot of stuff from him. I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be. What was his name? I know he's already passed away. Incredibly knowledgeable and awesome dealer.

That N321 will be easy to ID (with or without the slab).

Really sorry to read that you're dealing with this crap.

[ValKehl]

Dan, I'm saddened to learn of your loss. You mentioned that the thief struck while you were setting up on the first day of the show. Was this before the show was opened to the paying attendees? If so, I'm thinking the thief may be someone associated with one of the other dealers.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by ValKehl

Dan, I'm saddened to learn of your loss. You mentioned that the thief struck while you were setting up on the first day of the show. Was this before the show was opened to the paying attendees? If so, I'm thinking the thief may be someone associated with one of the other dealers.

Probably right around 11am but there are non dealers walking in and out of the place on Fridays as they have to let dealers in the first time without badges.

[Yoda]

Dan, having once had a beautiful '33 Goudey stolen at a Ft. Washington show, I can relate to that empty hollow feeling you must have. Fortunately, my insurer, once they received the police report, was responsive and I received partial reimbursement.
I have never had another Goudey Gehrig that was as nice as the one ripped off me.
Like others, I will keep my eyes open at the National. It is such a rare card that the perp may have trouble fencing it.
John

[Steve_NY]

Collectors who are honest just don't realize what it means to set up and watch for thieves. Having done 39 Nationals, I have lost items periodically and I often write them off to the cost of doing business. But each time I get hit I get more cautious. Most of my display is now in locked showcases and anything left on the table is far enough from anyone so that they would have to reach over my showcases to get them.

But locking the showcases is a pain as it creates more time for me to retrieve items collectors want to look at. But believe me, it does help as long as when you hand a collectors an inch to 2 inches of cards, it means they must be supervised, or you hand them only ten or 15 cards at a time.

I hope I am wrong, but I still think that the time to be most careful is during set up and break down. I am not pointing a finger at the dealers, but there are many individuals who get in at that time who are friends or acquaintances of dealers.

The point of my response is BE CAREFUL. Often the ones you should be careful with, you let your guard down. BE CAREFUL 100% of the time.

Steve_NY

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Fred

Was that an Anaheim National? I forgot the name of the other dealer at the table that got fleeced. He was a great guy. I remember being in the area (east coast, I think outside Baltimore) and going to his home back in the late 90s and purchasing a lot of stuff from him. I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be. What was his name? I know he's already passed away. Incredibly knowledgeable and awesome dealer.

That N321 will be easy to ID (with or without the slab).

Really sorry to read that you're dealing with this crap.

Yes! Anaheim!

The other Family that was hit was the Levine's

They were a local to CA family, they took a 2nd mortgage out on their house to stock up for that National!

So Sad

[chalupacollects]

Have you called any of the local pawn shops?

Hope it turns up…


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[danmckee]

Please keep an eye out for me thanks

[Fred]

Just a crazy thought -

I forgot about this card as being stolen and I know we see cards reported as stolen periodically in threads.

Would it be possible to create a "stolen card" topic in the Watercooler section that is stuck to the top. I guess basic criteria would be required such as the card cannot be a basic run of the mill card, it should be either rare/scarce or have substantial value and easily identifiable.

It would be easy to check the topic periodically to remind ourselves what is "hot" out there and if we see it, to take the appropriate action (notify the victim).

[etsmith]

Ebay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/372000860775

[FrankWakefield]

THAT card looks like Dan's... So did the sale go through, or what???

[rdwyer]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

THAT card looks like Dan's... So did the sale go through, or what???

darby-s is member here. Doubt it.

[Beercan collector]

Originally Posted by etsmith

Ebay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/372000860775

Nice .. ( I hope )

[Eric72]

Originally Posted by etsmith

Ebay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/372000860775

The listing reads, "This listing was ended by the seller on Sat, Jun 24 at 5:12 AM because the item is no longer available."

Additionally, the seller is darby-s.

Lastly, the original post in this thread was a couple days away from the listing being ended.

This link is to an old listing of Dan's, from right before the theft, correct?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by etsmith

Ebay : https://www.ebay.com/itm/372000860775

That's Dan's ebay site, note that the auction was ended a couple days before his original post.

Doug

[danmckee]

Ok well my wife found the culprit and all 5' 0" 120 lbs of her took matters into her own hands and boy is he sorry!! Yes I am on my way to Urgent Care with a Moused up Black eye!

This is very bad and embarrassing. If you would have put a gun to my head back in June of 2023 and asked me if I had this card in my hand at 1 point in Chantilly at the show, I would have said absolutely!

Well I was digging in my safe for a card I know I have and found in my keeper box. I have 2 card boxes in that safe, a keeper box and my 50+ year Type set in the other box.

In the keeper box, WALLA! There sits the missing SF Hess card with a price sticker still on back! How it got there???? Well nothing in that box has a price sticker on it so I have 2 possibilities of what happened.

1. I decided to keep it and add it to my type collection and placed it in the wrong box and forgot completely that I did that.

2. Do you watch Paranormal caught on camera? Items get removed and placed in other areas or just go completely missing altogether.

I am going with #2 as I don't want to face reality that I am slipping badly in my vintage years.........


Dan Mckee

[shoreball51]

Good to hear on possession of the card! Not good news on being in the emergency room from a small 5 ft. wife. 😭Now in your collection or selling, or uncertain. If that is all you forgot you are just normal like most of us. Happy for you.

[ALBB]

Dan
glad to hear

but Im a bit confused... was it stolen ? recovered ?
misplaced ?
??

[danmckee]

I would have sworn stolen as I was 100% positive I had it in my hand at that show and it wasn't in my stock when I unpacked after the show but looks like I just misplaced it. It has been 2 years so I don't remember at all sadly.

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by shoreball51

Good to hear on possession of the card! Not good news on being in the emergency room from a small 5 ft. wife. 😭Now in your collection or selling, or uncertain. If that is all you forgot you are just normal like most of us. Happy for you.

I have to see if I have 1 in my type box or not. Thanks for the kind words.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by danmckee

I have to see if I have 1 in my type box or not. Thanks for the kind words.

I can’t begin to imagine what treasures are in that type box!

[ValKehl]

Dan, welcome to the CRS Fraternity of which I'm a charter member!

[Jay Wolt]

Dan glad you found it
I seem to lose stuff all the time lately

[Leon]

Originally Posted by danmckee

Ok well my wife found the culprit and all 5' 0" 120 lbs of her took matters into her own hands and boy is he sorry!! Yes I am on my way to Urgent Care with a Moused up Black eye!

This is very bad and embarrassing. If you would have put a gun to my head back in June of 2023 and asked me if I had this card in my hand at 1 point in Chantilly at the show, I would have said absolutely!

Well I was digging in my safe for a card I know I have and found in my keeper box. I have 2 card boxes in that safe, a keeper box and my 50+ year Type set in the other box.

In the keeper box, WALLA! There sits the missing SF Hess card with a price sticker still on back! How it got there???? Well nothing in that box has a price sticker on it so I have 2 possibilities of what happened.

1. I decided to keep it and add it to my type collection and placed it in the wrong box and forgot completely that I did that.

2. Do you watch Paranormal caught on camera? Items get removed and placed in other areas or just go completely missing altogether.

I am going with #2 as I don't want to face reality that I am slipping badly in my vintage years.........


Dan Mckee

Most of us has had something like that happen.
Glad you found it!
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