ROGER MARIS vs AARON JUDGE

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by packs

The only player to hit 400 after 1900 and not be elected to the HOF is Joe Jackson.

If either player hit 400 I think the ticket was punched. It's that big of an accomplishment in the game.

Artie Wilson hit .435 for the Birmingham Black Barons in 1948. Here he is in San Diego in the early 1950s



O'Doul fell two hits short. D'oh!

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by packs

The video of Hank rounding the bases with the two fans at his side is an incredible moment not just for sports but also for the time. I'm sure Hank had no greater fear than some maniac doing something crazy at the ballpark and to see him instantly recognize the moment he was in when those fans approached him is inspiring.

It's pretty remarkable to me there aren't far more incidents of fans rushing the field and making trouble.

[egri]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's pretty remarkable to me there aren't far more incidents of fans rushing the field and making trouble.

I've noticed they don't rush the field at all lately. Back in the day, they did after Mazeroski's home run, the Impossible Dream Red Sox beating the Twins, Hank Aaron's 715th, Carlton Fisk waving the ball fair, but off the top of my head I can't think of any more recently than that.

[bb66]

This has been a very good discussion about Maris,Wilson,and all the other players that had a huge statistical season that gets them noticed by everyone that watches the HOF. Thanks

[gonefishin]

Judge is now at 55 - can he do it?

[rats60]

Originally Posted by egri

I've noticed they don't rush the field at all lately. Back in the day, they did after Mazeroski's home run, the Impossible Dream Red Sox beating the Twins, Hank Aaron's 715th, Carlton Fisk waving the ball fair, but off the top of my head I can't think of any more recently than that.

Chris Chambliss HR to win the 1976 ALCS.

[drmondobueno]

I always thought Baseball had a Hall of Fame. FAME. Maris meets that definition. Just my humble biased opinion.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by drmondobueno

I always thought Baseball had a Hall of Fame. FAME. Maris meets that definition. Just my humble biased opinion.

I believe that back then, the term 'hall of fame' had a different contextual meaning. It was to bestow fame on the inductees. There weren't many actual Halls of Fame in the sense of a formalized list in a building and museum before Cooperstown, but the term was fairly common in the late 19th century to refer to the most accomplished in a particular field, more than purely famous; the sense that the accomplishments and the recognition of them would create the fame element, in a positive rather than infamous light. I've encountered it a few times in the late 19th century and early 20th century classicists and historians and they all seem to use this context, more than how we think of fame now, where fame itself is essentially divorced from merit.

I don't read much from the 1920's and 1930's, perhaps it had evolved between then and Cooperstown itself.

Apologies if this is overly pedantic, but I find it interesting how words and turns of phrase shift with time.