OT: dogs being killed at the Sochi games. What we can do to help them

[Runscott]

I think everyone should be forced to only eat only one food item (whichever one they think is the best), and nothing else.

Or to be more relevant to this forum, you can only collect one baseball card - whichever one you think is the most important.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Soy, and Ripken (89Fleer?), soooo many variations.

Thanks Bill, for this thread. When I first saw it last night, I thought it really wouldn't get much of a response. Boy was I wrong.

Bout time someone mentions seinfeld and/or the 3rd reich. (sp?) oops I just did. (godwins rule)

[drcy]

In short, it's possible to chew gum and walk at the same time, wear a shirt and pants simultaneously, and to be charitable to both dogs and humans. There is no dogs versus humans dilemma. In fact, when you find a stray dog a good home, you're being kind to both.

Did you know? Curly Howard of the Three Stooges was an animal lover and spent much of his free time finding homes for strays he found while traveling. He also was a quiet person and, away from the camera, only did his comic routines for people he knew well.

And did you know that Bela Lugosi was the first person to breed white German Shepherds in the United States? His family portraits included the human and dogs members.

[buymycards]

Hi Bill, I guess my only issue is to question why you would post this on a vintage card website? Aren't there hundreds of other sites where your post would be more appropriate? If you want to use this site, then maybe the water cooler section would be a better choice? Should we all start posting our personal issues on the main page of this board?



Rick

[Leon]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Hi Bill, I guess my only issue is to question why you would post this on a vintage card website? Aren't there hundreds of other sites where your post would be more appropriate? If you want to use this site, then maybe the water cooler section would be a better choice? Should we all start posting our personal issues on the main page of this board?



Rick

My only issue is why someone who has posted approximately 1 thread not pertaining to selling something, in the last year or so, can remotely question someone who has started a ton of good threads, then posts an off topic one? Care to guess which is a more valuable member, in my eyes?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Leon is your reaction perhaps colored by the fact that the post was about a subject that obviously is one you feel passionately about?

I think Rick does have a valid point. For example autism and developmental disabilities are very important to me, but I would not have thought to start a thread on a baseball card board urging people to donate to those causes.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Well it was about a K. O. thing, and he is a good member, I think. Sports too, are there (olympics). And overall Bill's a great guy. It's ok with Leon, then it's ok by me.........Leons call.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Leon is your reaction perhaps colored by the fact that the post was about a subject that obviously is one you feel passionately about?

I think Rick does have a valid point. For example autism and developmental disabilities are very important to me, but I would not have thought to start a thread on a baseball card board urging people to donate to those causes.

+1

Rick's okay and contributes to the board behind the scenes with mailing issues. Dogs and Parakeets occasionally pop up of the main board, but I would defend anyone's right to question their presence here.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Leon is your reaction perhaps colored by the fact that the post was about a subject that obviously is one you feel passionately about?

I think Rick does have a valid point. For example autism and developmental disabilities are very important to me, but I would not have thought to start a thread on a baseball card board urging people to donate to those causes.

Yes and no. In my eyes, as moderator, I give a heck of a lot of leeway to the folks who add the most value to the board. Members who start good threads are my favorite members, in that respect.
And yes, I am a passionate dog lover, so that could play a little bit into it but not as much as my response above.

That being said I have already PM'd another good member today about an off topic as I do think there are a few too many at this current time. But besides that, and as far as the board's welfare is concerned, I am sticking to my story.

And I also need to add that Rick (hi Rick) is a good guy and this wasn't meant to be personal but is meant to give my opinion on the subject.

[buymycards]

Leon, no problem here. You are correct. Most of the threads I start are in the BST. As far as value to the board - that is beside the point. The point is that I disagree with this type of post. No offense meant to Bill as I enjoy most of his threads. You are the moderator and it is up to you to moderate - not me. I have the utmost respect for you and for what you do.

Rick

[Maddog]

Originally Posted by novakjr

Same for all of my family's pets...We always had dogs growing up. I recall at one time there were 4. Before my mother had passed last year from cancer, she requested that she be buried with 3 of them, and that my father(when he passes), be buried with the other 3. Or 2, depending on if Duke has passed by then. Dad's in pretty good shape, and Duke is a 10 year old, 125+ lb, American Bulldog who is aging very quickly at this point. It'll break my dad's heart when he passes. He was my mom's protector and best-friend(even to the point where people weren't allowed near her at times, when she was sick). He's been as depressed as the rest of us since my mother's passing, and he and my father have really bonded over it...

Every person deserves that type of bond, and so does every dog..

Dave, same here. When my Mom passed away her 3 favorite cats went with her. It really is strange the bonds we develop with our pets. As they say, dogs are mans best friend.

[autograf]

My wife and I have two adopted daughters from China....this reminds me somewhat of some of the jackwads who will say 'why didn't you adopt from the US?'. My response is 'what have you done?'. Bottom line.....humans or animals, local or far away. just. do. something.

[Mikehealer]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Leon, no problem here. You are correct. Most of the threads I start are in the BST. As far as value to the board - that is beside the point. The point is that I disagree with this type of post. No offense meant to Bill as I enjoy most of his threads. You are the moderator and it is up to you to moderate - not me. I have the utmost respect for you and for what you do.

Rick

Classy post Rick. Good man.

[freakhappy]

Originally Posted by autograf

My wife and I have two adopted daughters from China....this reminds me somewhat of some of the jackwads who will say 'why didn't you adopt from the US?'. My response is 'what have you done?'. Bottom line.....humans or animals, local or far away. just. do. something.

+1...good point, Tom. Doesn't matter where any human or animal is, if you can help, I'm sure it will go a long way.

Also wanted to thank Bill for starting this thread because I'm positive that because of his efforts, donations have been made that otherwise would not have been...and for that, we know some animals are getting care that is much needed.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by buymycards

Leon, no problem here. You are correct. Most of the threads I start are in the BST. As far as value to the board - that is beside the point. The point is that I disagree with this type of post. No offense meant to Bill as I enjoy most of his threads. You are the moderator and it is up to you to moderate - not me. I have the utmost respect for you and for what you do.

Rick

Thanks for your understanding Rick. And it goes to show why you are one of the good guys. I appreciate it. I also respect your opinion too. You should always be able to give it, regardless if it goes against my grain or with it and not fear any repercussions. I am sure there are a percentage of folks that would prefer no off topics at all. I understand that too. Take care and happy collecting....

[jhs5120]

I donate plenty to needy children in America. Actually, come April 15th I'll be sending another "charitable donation"

In all seriousness, this is a worthwhile cause (no one hear can deny that). If there is a cause more "worthy" it's best to take action and raise funds/awareness for that cause rather than $hit on everyone else's parade in a well-intentioned thread.

On a side note, I donated last week when I first heard about this.

[I Only Smoke 4 the Cards]

My wife would cut a person who says that dogs don't have feelings.


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[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

Also wanted to thank Bill for starting this thread because I'm positive that because of his efforts, donations have been made that otherwise would not have been...and for that, we know some animals are getting care that is much needed.

Ultimately, that's all I care about. This is happening right now, and there's not a lot of coverage about it in the news. And that's just tragic. These poor creatures need somebody to speak out for them, so I've done it everywhere I can think of. And if we've helped to even save a few dogs, then it is worthwhile to me. Thank you to everybody that has helped to spread the word, and has reached into their pockets to help those that are on the ground working to save these beautiful dogs. We are all God's creatures, and should be treated with kindness.

[Runscott]

Thanks, Bill. Amazingly (this is a true story), I have been able to adopt dogs and also to help homeless people. Weird, but true. I'm glad I didn't have to choose.

[Ladder7]

Originally Posted by autograf

My wife and I have two adopted daughters from China....this reminds me somewhat of some of the jackwads who will say 'why didn't you adopt from the US?'. My response is 'what have you done?'. Bottom line.....humans or animals, local or far away. just. do. something.

Nice

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Thanks, Bill. Amazingly (this is a true story), I have been able to adopt dogs and also to help homeless people. Weird, but true. I'm glad I didn't have to choose.

Good for you, Scott. If everybody just did a little bit to help out those in need, be it animals, or people, the world would be a much better place. I agree with Tom. Just do something to make a difference. We don't all need to be philanthropists on the level of a Bill Gates. Sometimes kindnesses that might seem insignificant at first glance have a way of snowballing for the greater good. The people here on Net 54 are salt of the Earth, and I knew coming here appealing to everybody's humanity would do some good. So, again, to those of you that donated, or raised awareness, I thank you. People like you all made a difference, and it's being reported that Russia has stopped the killing of the dogs. What they're doing to help them going forward I do not know, but with this senseless murdering now a thing of the past, the people that want to help them can now get in without the threat of some random deadline.

I for one will sleep better tonight.

[Josh Wolf]

Looks like this story really has a happy ending. Great article on efforts by U.S. Olympian Gus Kenworthy and Russian billionaire Oleg Deripaska to help save these dogs.

http://www.eonline.com/news/510338/o...-dogs-in-sochi

Bill, thanks again for bringing this topic to light. It's voices like yours that helped turn a tragedy into possibly the feel-good story of the year.

Josh

[darwinbulldog]

A happy ending indeed. I am aware that most of you will probably not watch this video, but I think it is the best and most important response to the question that ended up being debated in this thread, that of choosing among various worthy charities. And it's heartening to see that there is enough charitable intent among my fellow collectors that such an issue would be discussed here. Please take a look.

http://www.ted.com/talks/peter_singe..._altruism.html

[freakhappy]

Thanks for the link, Darwin...I love Ted talks.


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