Please Show your Type 1 Red Cross (T215-1) & Coupons (T213-1)

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Scott...youre absolutely correct. Those type II's have no place in this thread.

I was seriously only asking.

I have seen the blue-caption cards show up in a lot of 'Type 1' discussions, which had me wondering if I really understood the differences. I only have these two: the single Red Cross and a single Type 1 Coupon, so nothing to compare them to. Also, both of mine are slabbed, so the thinness aspect is lost on me as well (never held type 1's in hand).

...carry on.

edited to add: When I initially picked up the Jennings, Leon had to tell me it was a Type 1, or I would not have known. The other confusing thing I've noticed is that when SGC puts the year range on these (either for Coupon or Red Cross), it doesn't always correspond to what I've seen called 'type 1, 2 or 3', so it must be confusing to them as well.

[refz]

t213-1

[DixieBaseball]

With a couple of recent additons to this thread we have knocked off the T213-1 Chase Dark Cap & Regan SLer. Let's strike Doolan & Dubuc from the list as well. Also, some nice Type 1 Red Cross to boot. Thanks for sharing - keep em coming !

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Knabe
LaPorte
Lennox
Marshall
McElveen
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mowrey
Paskert
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Thomas
Wilson


Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bay
Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[tiger8mush]

One more T213 off the Jeremy / Ted Z Coupon list ...

Rob

[DixieBaseball]

Rob - Nice Thomas - Very clean, indeed.

Let's also strike Paskert from the list which I believe is more like very scarce rather than rare among the Coupon gang.

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Knabe
LaPorte
Lennox
Marshall
McElveen
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mowrey
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Wilson


Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bay
Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[tedzan]

Why do so many of these 1910 COUPON cards have a repeated pattern of paper loss in the upper portion of their backs ?






Thanks Chris for this Willett.


TED Z

[DixieBaseball]

Hey Ted,

Nice Willett ! I can't explain it, other than perhaps these cards all resided in the same ole time collector's hands and perhaps he stored them in a certain pattern and upon removal they all suffered the same fate. I do know this, there are some really nice Coupon's that have technical grades of 1 or 1.5. They look like 6's on the front, but have the paper loss. They look amazing and are in such beautiful shape (wrinkle free).

[FrankWakefield]

Alright... I can add to my Huggins post back there. Thank you, Chris. Now I have a Huggins T213 type 1.





I know the idea of thinking of the type 1 Coupon cards being like T206's crops up. In a slab they look similar. Hold one in your hand and it is obvious that the type one cards are virtually on paper, not cardstock. The type 1's aren't at all like T206's. At least the slim American Beauty cards look like they were T206 size until a side was trimmed. Their thinness, their fragility, would be a contributing factor to there being few of the type 1 cards...

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Alright... I can add to my Huggins post back there. Thank you, Chris. Now I have a Huggins T213 type 1.

I know the idea of thinking of the type 1 Coupon cards being like T206's crops up. In a slab they look similar. Hold one in your hand and it is obvious that the type one cards are virtually on paper, not cardstock. The type 1's aren't at all like T206's. At least the slim American Beauty cards look like they were T206 size until a side was trimmed. Their thinness, their fragility, would be a contributing factor to there being few of the type 1 cards...

Frank, the slab kills a lot of learning opportunities regarding cards...and hides quite a few surface creases and other flaws.

Leon suggested that I crack out a '14 CJ just so that I would know what they were really like (thinness mainly). I was kind of stunned - I now have a lot more respect for those that survived.

[AndrewJerome]

Laporte

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Frank, the slab kills a lot of learning opportunities regarding cards...and hides quite a few surface creases and other flaws.

Leon suggested that I crack out a '14 CJ just so that I would know what they were really like (thinness mainly). I was kind of stunned - I now have a lot more respect for those that survived.

- Scott - I held my first type 1 several years ago and like you was utterly surprised at just how delicate and ultra thin these cards are... The CJ's as well. It does make you appreciate their survival more and certainly helps one understand why so few survived (Type 1's) compared to Type 2's, etc.

Thanks to Andrew for posting a seldom seen type 1, LaPorte. The list is dwindling down, but we have a little ways to go... Post em if you got em...

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Huggins (hands at mouth)
Knabe
Lennox
Marshall
McElveen
Mitchell (Cincinnati)
Mowrey
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Wilson


Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bay
Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[cfc1909]

Bay.jpg

Bayb.jpg

[marcdelpercio]

a couple more beauties

[DixieBaseball]

Jim & Marc,
Thanks for sharing your tough types! We are taking this list down, so I hope anyone else might be able to jump in and knock the remaining Type 1's off the list. Nice Bay Jim and a super tough player to find...

Let's also strike these remaining 2 Cincy players that I recently owned...

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Knabe
Lennox
Marshall
McElveen
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Wilson


Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[White Borders]

T213-1 Lennox

[DixieBaseball]

Thanks Craig ! Strike Lennox from the group.

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Knabe
Marshall
McElveen
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr
Wilson

Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[frohme]

Hi Jeremy,

You can strike Wilson, sort of - not pretty, but all there, mostly. He runs with better company, so to speak.




Be well.
--
Mike

[DixieBaseball]

Hi Mike,
Thanks for sharing your Wilson Coupon and lovely RC's as well ! (Wilson has been removed from the list...) Let's also strike off Marshall (I recently owned this card and traded it away...)

Major Leaguer's (48) - Show any of these you own :
---------------

Campbell
Donovan (throwing)
Dunn (Brooklyn)
Fletcher
Knabe
McElveen
Rhoades (hands at chest)
Schmidt (portrait)
Starr

Southern Association (20) - Show any of these you own :
--------------------

Bernhard
Ellam
Fritz
Greminger
Hickman
Perdue
Persons

[ullmandds]

Does anyone know if there is a t213-I of Donlin with the same pose as type II w/bat(caption or no caption).

Also if this pose is present in T215 I or II?

Any help is appreciated!

[ullmandds]

I think I found the answer! Assuming Ted's checklist of T213-I is accurate...there is no donlin in t213-I or t215-I...but maybe II?

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

I think I found the answer! Assuming Ted's checklist of T213-I is accurate...there is no donlin in t213-I or t215-I...but maybe II?

Peter

(1) There is no Donlin (bat) in the 1910 COUPON (T213-1) set.

(2) There is a Donlin (bat) in the RED CROSS (T215-1) set (as my listing indicates).

Please check-out the latter bit of info, again.


TED Z

[ullmandds]

thanks for clarification, Ted.