1974 Laughlin Old-Time Black Stars - A Set Ahead of its Time

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by IgnatiusJReilly

Bumping this classic thread up. I just graded a raw set I bought last year on eBay. Got some really nice results including a PSA 9 Cool Papa Bell, which is a pop 1 none higher. This is such a fun set to collect and you can even find signed versions now and then.


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If I dig around I have a Cool Papa Bell that is signed multiple times on the front. I have a few other auto'ed ones as well.

[paleocards]

That was my (3rd duplicate) graded '78 set in REA. I too was surprised that the raw one sold for more. C'est la vie.

On a brighter note, I landed a grail from fellow Net54 member Matt (1956toppsguy). This incredible card is now a centerpiece in my collection and I couldn't imagine another signed Satch I'd rather have. It's a Pop 2 with none higher, enjoy!

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[Spunker22]

Wow! That Paige is fantastic. Congratulations

[archgator]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I can't tell you the why, but I can back up inconsistent sizing. I have collected these for years and grab them when they pop up. I assumed personally that the short cards were likely top or bottom of the sheet.

Thank you, @JustinD!

[Exhibitman]

Apparently the Gibson has gone nuts since the full integration of NL stats into the MLB records.

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Apparently the Gibson has gone nuts since the full integration of NL stats into the MLB records.

I noticed that!

It has jumped from a couple hundred to a couple thousand over night.

The more insane jump to me is the Leyland's Josh Gibson Toleteros reprint. That was a 5-10 dollar item and one sold for 375/BO and the other current listed auctions are climbing into the hundreds as well. That is nutsville for a 2005 auction promo. I have a few and it may be time to let those go because that is definitely not going to hold.

All his modern issues seem to be in the same temporary boost that happens for a few months after a HOF dies.

That said, congrats to the current holders of a real Toleteros, I can't imagine they have not tripled in value and will likely stay there.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I put my 8 up on ebay at first as a BIN OBO. One offer, later retracted. Running now as an auction opening for a little more than the raw supposed sale, doubt it opens. Don't trust any of this stuff.

No offers at all on my raw NM MT Shakey's.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by JustinD

I noticed that!

It has jumped from a couple hundred to a couple thousand over night.

The more insane jump to me is the Leyland's Josh Gibson Toleteros reprint. That was a 5-10 dollar item and one sold for 375/BO and the other current listed auctions are climbing into the hundreds as well. That is nutsville for a 2005 auction promo. I have a few and it may be time to let those go because that is definitely not going to hold.

All his modern issues seem to be in the same temporary boost that happens for a few months after a HOF dies.

That said, congrats to the current holders of a real Toleteros, I can't imagine they have not tripled in value and will likely stay there.

Someone is pumping, most likely. Seen this movie many times.

[Peter_Spaeth]

1350 for a PSA 7 Shakey's.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

1350 for a PSA 7 Shakey's.

[Schlesinj]

I bid on a few including a Charleston and the seller retracted my bid and canceled the auction. Something is odd.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

I bid on a few including a Charleston and the seller retracted my bid and canceled the auction. Something is odd.

Feel free to bid on my SGC 8 Charleston.

[Schlesinj]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Feel free to bid on my SGC 8 Charleston.

I may be the high bidder…

[Peter_Spaeth]

An SGC 6 Gibson sold for 2400 this evening, but I suspect people think it will bump, looked massively undergraded to my eyes.

[FAU Bam Bam]

Hi all. Glad to see this chat reignited. Want to get a sense of where you all think the '74 and '78 Laughlin sets are going in the future. Been a crazy couple of weeks with the Gibsons.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by FAU Bam Bam

Hi all. Glad to see this chat reignited. Want to get a sense of where you all think the '74 and '78 Laughlin sets are going in the future. Been a crazy couple of weeks with the Gibsons.

My SGC 8 Charleston ends today. I don't expect an overwhelming price I think whatever is going on is limited to the Gibson. Whether it's sustainable no idea. I thought I got a very strong price on my 8 but based on where the 4SC listing seems to be headed I may have left a lot on the table.

[Exhibitman]

Given what records he now holds and the lack of cards, Gibson is the obvious choice for a surge. I expect some of the players in the set with additional records that people collect, like .400 hitters, will see some price increases as awareness grows.

As a collector, it is a mixed bag: if you cash in how likely are you to refill the hole in your collection?

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Given what records he now holds and the lack of cards, Gibson is the obvious choice for a surge. I expect some of the players in the set with additional records that people collect, like .400 hitters, will see some price increases as awareness grows.

As a collector, it is a mixed bag: if you cash in how likely are you to refill the hole in your collection?

I bought a Laughlin and a Shakey's just to have Gibsons, but I was perfectly happy to sell them into the price surge, as IMO they aren't real cards. My bigger regret would be selling too soon, but it's hard to judge this one.

[Schlesinj]

Nice result. I think the PSA went for $800.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Schlesinj

Nice result. I think the PSA went for $800.

It went from 200 to 700 in the last ten seconds i think.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Meanwhile bidding on the PSA 8 Gibson looks awfully suspect. High bidder with zero FB and the underbidder has bid about 50 times.

[FAU Bam Bam]

Looks like there has been a pretty solid bump in all of the '74 cards beyond the huge bump on the Gibson cards. 4SC should set the market on that for now.
maybe we will get a small bump in the '78 set.

For my personal PSA set, I would like to locate the owner of one of the two Martin Dihigo PSA 10's. I know Paleo has 1 of them, but would like to try and find the other.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I bought a Laughlin and a Shakey's just to have Gibsons, but I was perfectly happy to sell them into the price surge, as IMO they aren't real cards. My bigger regret would be selling too soon, but it's hard to judge this one.

I bought the Laughlin cards for the same reason. I think they're as real as it gets unless I want to burn thousands per card for Cuban or Venezuelan prewar cards, but if the prices hold up I will be selling too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

4K for an 8 just now. For a card produced 25 years after the player died, not to mention a cartoonish image bearing no resemblance, yikes.

[Exhibitman]

I chickened out and sent the whole lot to SGC. If they come back decently graded and the prices are good I will sell them.