Wrinkles in PSA 5s

[Edwolf1963]

I don't have any SGC60s that I'm aware of with crease/wrinkles. I always thought the stated maximum you could get from either PSA or SGC on cards with a wrinkle was a 4? Personally, I have found more issues with a few PSA5s having paper chips/loss than wrinkles. SGC60s - I have seen more centering issues, especially the backs.

Obviously both can make questionable grades/mistakes, I've just seen more inconsistency on the cards I've seen and/or submitted to PSA.

[chaddurbin]

i did have a sgc60 t206 young w/glove with 2 spidery corner wrinkles. the card shifted significantly inside the sgc case during shipping so wasn't sure if wrinkle was there before.

say all you want about the floating psa case, but the black sgc insert slab is also a problem and sometimes the sharp edges dig into the card.

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

the black sgc insert slab is also a problem and sometimes the sharp edges dig into the card.

True -- I had an SGC 60 Walter Johnson portrait once that had two little dings on the bottom edge from the SGC insert. I raised it with the good folks at SGC and they were very accommodating and apologetic -- but they haven't changed their black-insert formula.

[CMIZ5290]

Chad, excellent point about sgc holders. I have an sgc 92 that this happened to. It made me sick to my stomach when i first noticed it, but that's what had to have happened because sgc woulld have noticed that small indention if it was already there before grading...by the way, is there any recourse with SGC on this type of issue?

[glynparson]

wrinkles are allowed on psa 5 they are even allowed on psa 6 if the rest of card is mint. there are things that they both are more lenient about

[E93]

Originally Posted by glynparson

wrinkles are allowed on psa 5 they are even allowed on psa 6 if the rest of card is mint. there are things that they both are more lenient about

True, at least it was years ago when this happened to me. I had a CJ that I thought would get a 9 or 8 at a minimum. It came back in a PSA 6 holder (at a show) so I asked for an explanation. They said there was a very minor wrinkle in one area and pointed to it. I could not see it under a loupe. It looked to me like the natural unevenness of the paper CJs were printed on. I resubmitted it a year later and received the same grade and same explanation. Tried a third time the following year with the same result. For those that complain about inconsistency, here is some good evidence to the contrary on the detection of a VERY insignificant flaw.
JimB