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Old 03-24-2012, 12:45 AM
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I would include any Exhibit that can be pinned down to one particular year for issue release (early stuff). I would not include the latters (47-66).

I would not include the Brown & Bigelow or Detroit Free press as those are supplements/premiums.

For me (and there's obviously no textbook definition), a rookie card should come from a set; meaning there should be multiple fighters/players issued under the same release. Otherwise, why not just include dated photos?

The '71 Barratt Ali shouldn't even be considered. There are dozens of Ali cards prior to that no matter how you define rookie card.

The more important question is what constitutes a "card?" Archie Moore has 1948/49 issues (and early 50s) from outside the US, although they're not rectangular.

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Hasselhoff, I like your definition that it should come from a 'set', and that if you can't pin down the year then the issue isn't best for this particular list.

I'm in favor of foreign issues being included. If scarcity shouldn't be an issue, then neither should be country of production.

Would love to know a bit more about the early Archie Moore cards though, o you have any more info?
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Either 1948 or 1949, from Argentina:

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The other (one is '48, one is '49; not sure which is which yet)

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Woah, those are pretty cool. I'd be up for including them. Seen any for sale recently?
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I would also concur with Adam that UTC is 100% NOT a 1935 issue, 1941 at the earliest.
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Don't know of any currently for sale. I'm shooting from the hip but my best guess is that they're either Crack or Po-Po (obviously one of them is Po-Po as it says it right on the card).
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PSA has slabbed several from the UTC series as 1935 issues. They've made a few mistakes on stuff like this in the past though, so if you guys are pretty confident that there's no 1935 issue I can edit.
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I am 110% sure that UTC wasn't produced before 1941.
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