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Old 02-12-2012, 01:44 AM
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Here is a third one by the same hand, this one also certed by James Spence back in 1999.

It is a hybrid of the first two, notice the word sincerely, exactly the same as the one psa called 'bad' and the small b in babe is exactly the same, the ly in Sincerely is exactly the same, while the other one has a slightly different connection from the l to the y, the loop in the capital R in Ruth is flat on the bottom, so that matches, plus the start of the R in Ruth in relationship to the e in babe matches too.

but on the other hand, the stem in the capital R in ruth, lines up in the baseline like the one they called 'good', and the h in Ruth has the shallow smile and longer tail that you pointed out like the so called "good' one, as well as the bottom of the capital B in Babe matches the so called "good one. the word sincerely is also on an exact straight line like the so called 'good one' while the other one dips slightly in the middle, but that one had the perfectly formed connection on the ly in sincerely that matched the hybrid but this one didn't. hmmmmmm.......

All three have the same degree of slant.

How can that be? can you explain that? It has at least four characteristics that match up on both of the other autographs?

Now don't just ignore it? answer please! Explain how this third example I am showing shows some characteristics of #1 and some of #2. Unless you want to call it by a third unknown hand? Is that what you want to do?

Out of the close up cuts, the first one shown is the one psa called a forgery, last one is the one psa showed in their ad as good, and the middle one is another hybrid one that features characteristics of both, It is the ruth/cooper as gehrig photo featured first before the three closeup cuts. that also got a cert only this time from james spence circa 1999. The ruth/cooper/gehrig photo signed by Ruth was shown on haulsofshame.com and ron k had the follow to say about it. He believed it to be a well executed forgery.

“The first tip off is they are too neat, too perfect. Ruth signed in bold up and down strokes that correlated into a signature that is large, uneven, almost whimsical. The fake Ruths are level and lack the up and down strokes. What you need to do in focus in on the bottom of the signature. The fake ones will be level as if written on a straight line.”


And he is right, the words are too perfect, the word sincerely, is almost trancelike, hypnotic, Ruth signed a little sloppier and a little more childlike and uneven than the perfect penmanship these show like done by a royal scribe or something.


So now what? Care to comment again? I did my homework here. Please come back and tell me which of the first photos that this third one matches, and why it doesnt match the other.
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