Ellam question

[Abravefan11]

Frank - When the team caption was added to the Ellam card they simply made a mistake. If you look at the southern league players that were selected to be in the set, each team from the Southern Association and Virginia State League had at least two representatives. This is how the distribution for the Southern Association would have been had Ellam been correctly identified.

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Are there other examples of T206ers, who are in uniforms for teams they did not play for or manage during 1908-1911? Just wondering.........

Foley White
Another player in the set that some have thought was an error is Foley White. White's team designation is Houston but his statistical information for 1909 is for Waco.

After the 1908 season White signed with Houston. In early 1909 he reported to the team and participated in their preseason. This included catching the last game for Houston, the day before the Texas League opener. During the first weeks of the Texas League season White never played for Houston. By the end of May he would be released and joined the Waco team.

[FrankWakefield]

Nice graphic, Tim.

Who was it that first posted here on Net54 about Foley White?

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by FrankWakefield

Who was it that first posted here on Net54 about Foley White?

Frank - I couldn't answer that. I do know you began a thread sometime ago regarding the White card. After doing research on the southern league players, that included reading every days paper from February to June tracking White, I emailed you filling you in on what I found as I wasn't aware you had ever had your question answered. I never received a response. If someone knew about Foley White and why his team designation was Houston and not Waco, I wasn't aware, but I don't see why that is relevant to this thread. Why would what I posted require a qualifier about who talked about the White card on 54 first? Your bullying me while I try and participate in this forum in a positive way is uncalled for and childish.

[frankbmd]

If the identification of Ellam with Nashville was just a mistake, consider this.
There was a fellow named Kellum who did play for Nashville in the 1909-11 era.
I suppose it could have been a misidentification of the player or a misidentification of the team.
I'd like to see pictures of both players Kellum and Ellam

[FrankWakefield]

Tim, thank you, Sir. I appreciate it when I'm called childish. I apologize for taking your time with that when I know you're wanting to add pages to websites and such.

As for Kellum / Ellam, I think folks have been satisfied that the image on the Ellam, Nashville card really was Ellam.

[frankbmd]

Baseball reference thumbnails of Kellum and Ellam attached.
Kellum looks like a photo. Ellam looks like an image taken from his card.
Are there other Ellam photos out there??

Thanks to all for their input.

Frank B

[frankbmd]

Asked and answered.

Same pose, but not a Nashville uniform.

So much for the Kellum theory.

[DixieBaseball]

Hi Frank,

This mini should help answer your question :

Happy Holidays,