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Old 12-08-2011, 11:26 AM
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Steve O'Neil on the right above Ruth.
If that's Edd Roush it's not a very good likeness unlike the other players.
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thats not ed rousch on top left its Heinie Groh and ray schalk is top right

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My guess would be 1919 based on the Ruth pic, it is a famous photo that I believe was taken during his last season with Boston. It could have been from 1920 even but I don't think earlier than 1919.

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Thanks Sean, Here's Heinie Groh. I agree, it's him and not Roush.


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I don't think the one in the upper right is Cicotte, but rather Ray Schalk
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Pic of O'Neill


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Nice catch, Exhibitman (sorry, can't recall your name...), I think you nailed
the "issue".

...and as pointed out by Sean and Paul, Mr. Ray Schalk:
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just noticed in Adam's kit image that the square portrait cards were not always issued in 6 card panels, so I have to change my description....

I will call them "square portrait image" and "rectangular action image"

baseball players are found in both types



edited to add a picture of the baseball "rectangular action image" type

ruth, johnson, unknown, coveleski
who is the player in bottom left again??

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Thanks for all of the updates. To summarize the findings, here are the players in the panel (team in panel along with years played on that team are in parens):

Panel 1

Top Row
Left: Heinie Groh (Reds): 1912-27 (1913-1921)
Right: Ray Shalk (White Sox): 1912-29 (1912-1928)

Middle Row:
Left: Eddie Collins (White Sox): 1906-1930 (1915-1926)
Right: Steve O'Neill (Indians): 1911-1925 (1911-1923)

Bottom Row:
Left: Rabbit Maranville (Braves): 1912-1935 (1912-1920, 1929-1925)
Right: Babe Ruth (Red Sox): 1914-1935 (1914-1919)

Panel 2 (from Rhett's Thread)

Top Row:
Left: Ray Shalk (White Sox): 1912-29 (1912-1928)
Right: Zach Wheat (Brooklyn): 1909-1927 (1909-1926)

Bottom Row:
Left: Steve O'Neill (Indians): 1911-1925 (1911-1923)
Right: Tris Speaker (Indians): 1907-1928 (1916-1926)


From these, it seems that the card can be categorized as:

Universal Toy and Novelty, c.1916-1919

although per Phil's post, since Ruth's picture is well known, it may be 1919-1920. Rhett's thread also implied that it was the later dates.
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Looks like a Universal Toy & Novelty Manufacturing Co. card:







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