Was this really an 1890 Players League player cabinet?

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by TobaccoKing4

I noticed this too, it looked like it came from a modern ball point pen and I thought I may have even saw some wet ink on it still

I have bought many items from Jonsstats over the years and he has always been a completely standup guy. I would be very surprised if he had anything to do with "wet ink"

As an example, earlier this year I bought a scored scorecard from an all-star game from him. After receiving the item I discovered that the scoring was from a game other than the all star game. Jon quickly refunded my money and when he later relisted the item, he included the information that I had given him about the actual game that was scored inside in his description.

While it may be argued that nobody should sell a cabinet specifically as a certain person without specific proof, I think we should acknowledge that it is the responsibility of the buyer to know what they are buying. We should also give the seller credit for high quality scans of both the front and the back giving potential buyers far more info than the average "small fuzzy picture auctions" that we are used to on ebay.

I had this auction bookmarked, but my first thoughts when I saw it were "that the ink doesn't seem period on the back" and "how do we know it's a baseball player". I never had a chance to investigate properly, and since it sold for more than my price range, I'm glad that I didn't spend the time doing so.

Both hi bidders look to be experienced ebayers, so I would expect that they were aware of what they purchased.

Those are my thoughts,
Doug

[Jacklitsch]

Here's a Daly looking the same direction:

[ubiqty]

Not to go too far off topic, but I recently inquired about the photo that jonsstats claimed had Dummy Hoy in it. When I inquired, he was very responsive and did end up telling me that someone at Huggins & Scott had told him that Dummy Hoy was in that picture. I ended up deciding not to bother following up from there. Just my 2 cents.

[slidekellyslide]

I found the H&S lot where these cabinets originated.

http://sep11.hugginsandscott.com/cgi...l?itemid=37361

Jocko Milligan cabinet looks legit...Red Ames looks legit...John Clarkson doesn't look right...I'm guessing they think Colcolough is on the Chico, California cabinet?? Not sure what a southern dood from South Carolina who played his ball in Pittsburgh and New York was doing in California?

[bmarlowe1]

Some of those are good, some not. That's Jocko Milligan in the bottom group. - (sorry Dan, missed your edit.) Gerhardt may be good. For Colcolough I have only one bad comparison image - I can't eliminate him. I think the Norwich guy is Highball Wilson. The guy labeled Pop Snyder is not Pop Snyder.

[bmarlowe1]

The auction photo below left is not Clarkson. The ear is similar to Clarkson's (center) but not the same - it differs in the size and shape of the large opening. The other substantial difference is the size and shape of the nostrils. Age does not account for these differences.

[bmarlowe1]

The auction photo (below left) that had "Pop Snyder" written on it is not Snyder. It differs in jaw line, nose, and most importantly ear shape.