Colossal Auctions?

[travrosty]

Their suspicious behavior and actions notwithstanding, The following paragraph they posted IS true, though.



"There are some authenticators who cater to major auction houses extensively. They get more visibility and recognition when their company name is listed in the auction catalogs.

These auction sites and venues choose to allow only a few of these selected high profile authenticators to be associated with their collectibles. As such, many collectors are more familiar with those high profile authenticators, and they perceive signatures authenticated by them to be more credible, and therefore more valuable.

It is unfortunate that this view is common in the field of authentication, because being a familiar name may enhance the authenticator's reputation, but certainly doesn't mean they are the best in the business.

So if you choose to use an alternate authenticator, consider your options and choose wisely.

Please note that eBay policy allows only a select few authenticator's COA associated with autographs sold there.

Most autographed items will be delisted if they don't have the appropriate COA."

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

Most autographed items will be delisted if they don't have the appropriate COA."

That is totally untrue, as we all know.
You do not have to have a COA from PSA or JSA to sell on ebay.

[ruth-gehrig]

yeah as someone has already brought up, if it's worked for another auction company why wouldn't it work for this one?

[travrosty]

A few dealers I know were forced to either get ALL their stuff either certed by one of the three companies on ebay's pre-approved list or else they could not list the items on ebay. either pay for the sticker or get off ebay. it has happened.

[RichardSimon]

I would assume and just guess that those companies might have been selling questionable items and ebay made their selling conditional on approval by one of the authentication companies.
Everybody here knows I have no love lost for the authentication companies but lets keep our facts straight here.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by travrosty

A few dealers I know were forced to either get ALL their stuff either certed by one of the three companies on ebay's pre-approved list or else they could not list the items on ebay. either pay for the sticker or get off ebay. it has happened.

Travis, maybe those "few dealers" you refer to can come here on Net54 and tell us their story.

[travrosty]

there is another related point that is important, and that anything that gets a psa or jsa cert cannot be booted off of ebay, even if it is obviously fake. And that is just as concerning as anything else.

I have seen both a jsa and psa certed 8 x 10 signed joe louis photograph, (400 dollar plus items), both totally bogus, that wouldnt get taken off of ebay because they have a coa from an ebay pre-approved authenticator. i could show them my joe louis signature study all day long and go point by point and ebay isn't going to do anything.

that's a big problem too. so even more problematic than items requiring jsa or psa to sell on ebay are items that are jsa or psa but fake but can't be taken off ebay. ebay is a terribly flawed system.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by travrosty

there is another related point that is important, and that anything that gets a psa or jsa cert cannot be booted off of ebay, even if it is obviously fake. And that is just as concerning as anything else.

I have seen both a jsa and psa certed 8 x 10 signed joe louis photograph, (400 dollar plus items), both totally bogus, that wouldnt get taken off of ebay because they have a coa from an ebay pre-approved authenticator. i could show them my joe louis signature study all day long and go point by point and ebay isn't going to do anything.

that's a big problem too. so even more problematic than items requiring jsa or psa to sell on ebay are items that are jsa or psa but fake but can't be taken off ebay. ebay is a terribly flawed system.

You are unfortunately correct.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by travrosty

there is another related point that is important, and that anything that gets a psa or jsa cert cannot be booted off of ebay, even if it is obviously fake. And that is just as concerning as anything else.

I have seen both a jsa and psa certed 8 x 10 signed joe louis photograph, (400 dollar plus items), both totally bogus, that wouldnt get taken off of ebay because they have a coa from an ebay pre-approved authenticator. i could show them my joe louis signature study all day long and go point by point and ebay isn't going to do anything.

that's a big problem too. so even more problematic than items requiring jsa or psa to sell on ebay are items that are jsa or psa but fake but can't be taken off ebay. ebay is a terribly flawed system.

that is disgusting and most likely happening more than anyone would like to admit with many other items at these 2 respected companies.

They really need to go back and correct many of the mistakes past and present when they blatently know they have messed up. Infact all authenticators should practice this policy, but sadly no one does....