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Old 07-31-2011, 08:04 PM
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Default I don't know the details of the FB cards

I was answering your question about the BB cards nothing more; nothing less.

The BB Cards are not in the OPG; and that's all I know. I do not know the FB card histoy of how they were put into the data base.

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Old 07-31-2011, 09:16 PM
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My friend just told me about this post. Here is what I know.

I have a complete set of Champion Cornflakes FB cards all SGC-graded (minus the Namath). They are in the large Beckett Annual guide. 15+ years ago a football dealer in San Diego who use to specialize in odd football and advertised in the back of the SCD, had some for sale at very steep prices. He probably provided the data to Beckett as "Champion Cornflakes". I helped add to the checklist over the years as I made some futher acqusitions.

Both Mike Moiser and I bought a small group about 6 years ago at a Ft. Washington Show from a local weekend warrior dealer. He had no clue, he bought them as part of a collection of baseball cards. Prior to this purchase we had our doubts, but we both concluded they were the "real deal".

They are all cardboard stock. They all had a consistent "nib" on the borders as if they were connected at some time. There is no way these could have been cut from a poster. I was able to buy another group to upgrade and finish (almost) my set from a person in Philadelphia who told me he had two blank ones with no picture. I quicklyhoned in on these. I asked him to find me a box, but unfortiunately he never did. These may have been prototypes that were never issued. They probably never got per got permission to issue Little or Rentzel.
I don't think SI was in the business of printing poster with no player images on them as there would be a very limited market for these
Also, I have an SI ad from a magazine. The players on the checklist do not match 100% the players on the magazine checklist.

Very little is known about this issue, but If I collected baseball I wouldn't hesitate at all in bidding on these. I have never seen them before.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:23 AM
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We have decided based on the information provided that everyone is best served if we withdraw this item from the upcoming auction so we can better research the origin of this set. Thanks everyone for your input.
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Old 08-01-2011, 11:45 AM
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Good call Doug
Seems like a mystery still
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Old 08-01-2011, 01:44 PM
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Good move Doug. I'd still like to hear how/why Beckett cataloged the football.
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I grew up in RI, and I did send away for some of the SI posters of some Red Sox players. But I also had 3 of these cards that I had cut out myself.
I know I had the Lou Brock, Juan Marichal, & a 3rd.

I know I had 3 cards that were on cardboard stock and blank backed. I also know I cut these out myself. I also know they were the exact same photos as the SI posters.

I thought they came from a cereal box, but I can not be sure. Unfortunately I believe I sold them to a local dealer in the 80's along with other 1960's Topps cards as a batch however. But I might have kept the Lou Brock. I'll have to see if I still have it.

But facts I remember:
1) Cardboard stock, blanked backed (gray back I believe)
2) I cut them out myself
3) I had 3

And no, I've never eating any cereal from India. But if it was a local test promotion, I would have gotten them in RI.
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Old 08-02-2011, 07:59 PM
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I grew up in RI, and I did send away for some of the SI posters of some Red Sox players. But I also had 3 of these cards that I had cut out myself.
The 1969 Nabisco set used a lot of the same pictures as the SI posters, so if your cards didn't have the SI numbers on them, you might be thinking of those...
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We have decided based on the information provided that everyone is best served if we withdraw this item from the upcoming auction so we can better research the origin of this set. Thanks everyone for your input.
kudos Doug.
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:13 AM
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Just pulled out the ad posters, and it may be noteworthy that the 9A1 "Catfish Monday" (Catfish Huner? Rick Monday?) and 9A2 "Campy Campernaris" (Bert Campernaris?) are listed as future for sales posters but the players pictures are not shown. Blank spaces are shown for those players. If those players (sic) are in the card set, they didn't come from this poster.

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Just pulled out the ad posters, and it may be noteworthy that the 9A1 "Catfish Monday" (Catfish Huner? Rick Monday?) and 9A2 "Campy Campernaris" (Bert Campernaris?) are listed as future for sales posters but the players pictures are not shown. Blank spaces are shown for those players. If those players (sic) are in the card set, they didn't come from this poster.
Wow...that may explain those blank football "cards" that PSA slabbed. It seems much more evidence is pointing to these being cut from SI ad pieces over some Indian corn flake cereal box.
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