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					Originally Posted by Kenny Cole  As a manager?  Absolutely, assuming that you are going to penalize the players he managed too.  Is that enough to derail him?  I don't know.  He managed a long time, successfully, before steroids were much of an issue.  We've had variants of this discussion before, and rules are rules, even if they're unwritten, correct? | 
	
 So what should Torre have done?  Refused to pitch Clemens; refused to play Giambi?  Gone to management or the Commissioner?    had a heart to heart with Rog?  Resigned?  These do not seem realistic options to me.  I would not punish managers for their players' offenses.