Who needs the Hall of Fame anyway?!

[bh3443]

These are good instances where players should not have been omitted.
As for those banished, I can say that we are all only human. I like my baseball like the real world: where people make mistakes.
This makes me wonder if there was a card collectors Hall of Fame if I'd be banned for "off the cardboard" things I did!
Have a great weekend my friends!
Bill Hedin

[kcohen]

In going with the the OP's premise, Dave Orr fits perfectly. A stroke closed down what was surely a HOF career. He hit in the .340s over 8 years.

[packs]

Larry Doyle should be in. He was the greatest second baseman of his generation, I'd even say the greatest second baseman the game had ever seen when he retired. That makes you a HOFer in my opinion.

I don't know why Jimmy Ryan isn't in.

Fred McGriff and Larry Walker are HOFers to me. If either ever get in I think it's going to be a while.

His vote hasn't come up yet, but I think Andy Pettite is a HOFer as well. He has the HGH cloud over him, but I still think he belongs in the Hall.

[Jcfowler6]

Sam Leever

[howard38]

[QUOTE=packs;900591]Larry Doyle should be in. He was the greatest second baseman of his generation, I'd even say the greatest second baseman the game had ever seen when he retired. That makes you a HOFer in my opinion.
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A worthy hall of famer and perhaps the greatest 2B in the NL at the time but ALers Nap Lajoie and Eddie Collins were both head and shoulders above him.

[packs]

Ah yes you are right. I should have said National League.

[bcbgcbrcb]

Another vote for David Orr

[Butter]

Originally Posted by packs

Ah yes you are right. I should have said National League.

Actually, at the year 1929, when Doyle played his last season, was Rogers Hornsby's last good hitting season. His numbers dropped significantly after that year, possibly because he became a player manager. (or not?) If you look at who had betters numbers when Doyle retired, than Hornsby clearly appears to be the better.

If you're going to go by best retired second baseman, fine. But If we take to time to look through the stats you can see pretty clearly that Hornsby had much better numbers. Numbers don't mean everything, but unless one of us saw or really knows about Hornsby and Doyle, we have to go by the numbers and that pretty much decides the best second baseman to ever play in the National League in 1929.

[howard38]

Doyle's last season was 1920 just when Hornsby was beginning his historic offensive run.