Piedmont 350-460 Factory 42 Color Survey

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by mcadams

...why wouldn't you think that all the factory 42's started out dark blue, and some have just faded more than others over the years?

Michael - Because the color variations are too great. T206's that were placed in scrapbooks or tucked away 100 years ago will appear darker and richer in color than ones that have been well handled and worn but both will still be relatively the same color. The contrast in the light blue and dark blue Piedmont 42's is too great in my opinion (and I believe others) to have originally been the same shade of blue.

[Ronnie73]

Hi everyone, I just joined this forum and was looking back at many of the older posts. I know this topic is a few months old but thought it would be a good idea to list my Piedmont Factory 42 backs.

Barney Pelty - Vertical Photo - Light Blue Back
Hal Chase - Blue Background Portrait - Light Blue Back
Hooks Wiltse - Pitching - Light Blue Back (and it was my first T206 card ever)
Orval Overall - Hand Face Level - Light Blue Back
Rube Marquard - Pitching Follow Through - Light Blue Back

Ronnie73

[Abravefan11]

Ronnie - Thanks for adding your cards to the survey and welcome to the forum.

[aquarius31]

Great thread...I had not previously seen it. Here's a Jennings which appears to be a lighter blue compared to some of my other Piedmont backs. Sorry about the fuzzy image.

[Abravefan11]

Thanks for sharing the scans and the new additions to the survey, it's greatly appreciated.

[Gradedcardman]

Glad to say 4 of those are in my collection now !!

Looking for Schlei Portrait in all backs !!

[brass_rat]

I'll let you guys make the call. I'm color blind, and ever since grade school when I colored half of an ocean purple and the other half blue, I've stayed away from calling colors...even light and dark blue. haha.

As a side note, I just took these photos now, so it's under artificial light, which never looks as good as bright natural sunlight...

If anything, Willett and Wagner look to be light and Pelty and White look dark, but it really looks like Willett and Wagner didn't have enough ink to make it a bold, dark printing.

You might also think that maybe they were lightly bleached that caused the ink to be lighter, but these four cards have not been bleached -- I checked using a couple different types of black/UV lights.

Thoughts?

Steve

[tedzan]

Here are my current PIEDMONT 460/42 cards.....4 are light blue and the un-graded Hal Chase is a medium blue.

I have had and sold (or traded) Johnson, Jordan, Latham, Murphy and Rucker. All 5 of these PIEDMONT 460/42 cards were printed with the light blue ink.










From the "FYI....T206 PIEDMONT factory 25 & factory 42 confirmed lists"........
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=124959&page=2

All but Tinker (bat off shoulder) in the 350/60 series have been confirmed......62 cards

Ames (hands over head)
Baker
Bender (no trees)
Berger
Bradley (bat)
M. Brown (Chicago)
Burch (fielding)
Chance (yellow portrait)
Chase (blue portrait)
Chase (dark cap)
Cobb (red portrait)
Cobb (bat off shoulder)
Conroy (bat)
Davis (A's)
Crawford (bat)
Donlin (bat)
Doolan (bat)
Dougherty (arm in air)
Downey (bat)
Larry Doyle (bat)

Elberfeld (Washington-fielding)
Evers (bat-yellow sky)
Griffith (bat)
Jennings (one hand)
Jennings (both hands)
Johnson (pitching)
Jordan (bat)
Joss (pitching)
Kleinow (Boston)
Konetchy (glove low)
Lajoie (bat)
Lake (no ball)
Leach (cap)
Leifield (bat)
Magee (bat)
Manning (pitching)
Mathewson (dark cap)
McIntyre (Brooklyn & Chicago)
McQuillan (bat)
Mullin (bat)

Murphy (bat)
O'Leary (hands on knees)
Overall (yellow sky)
Pelty (vertical)
Pfeister (throwing)
Reulbach (no glove)
Rucker (bat)
Seymour (throwing)
F. Smith (Chicago & Boston)
Snodgrass (catching)
Stahl (glove)
Steinfeldt (bat)
Street (catching)
Sweeney (fielding)
Wagner (bat on right)
White (pitching)
Wilhelm (bat)
Willetts
Willis (bat)
Willis (throwing)

Wiltse (throwing)
CYoung (glove)


Only 12 subjects (of the 46) from the 460-only Series have been confirmed with the PIEDMONT 460, Factory 42 backs.

Bergen (catching)
Chase (Trophy)
Devore
Latham
Marquard (follow thru)
Merkle (throwing)
Murray (portrait)
Overall (blue sky)
Schlei (portrait)
Schaefer (Washington)
Seymour (portrait)
Wiltse (portrait-cap)


TED Z

[T206.org]

I don't own any of these. All except for Brown are from recent NC find.