The Roaches Corner is at it again

[sports-rings]

when I see that bids there go into the hundreds for this junk, i truly hope some of that is Coach's corner doing shell bidding too.

I can't beleive this has gone on as long as it has. Too bad 60 minutes or Real Sports doesn't do an investigative piece on them.

[ruth-gehrig]

Aren't there some attorneys or lawyers on the board that could offer advice as to what exactly it would take to get them shut down? What laws are they breaking? It's quite obvious to us their entire operation is a scam. Since letters of authenticity are opinions if it came down to a lawsuit over an autograph why couldn't the authenticator just say, "whoops my mistake i honestly believed it was the real deal based on my experience" and be off the hook? And the auction house just say they were selling it because the authenticator said it was legit? IMO to bring them down one of the forgers would have to rat em out but why would they want to because they have to be banking big time as well. Why would you bite the hand that continually feeds you?

[keithsky]

They'll never get busted because of what you stated with there cert and wording of IN OUR OPINION. All of the authenticators use the same wording to get out of being responsible. Third party grading is a joke. I can give an opinion and everyone on this board can but are we getting paid for it? Don't think so and they are and making a bag of money. It's like being a weather guy. I think it might rain today. You don't have to be right but you still get paid cause it's your opinion. We all have been complaining about C.C for years and they still continue to operate. It baffles me to see the same crap every auction and people still think they are getting a bargain. Operation Bullpen was supposed to clean up the hobby and maybe it did a little at the time but now there is C.C putting out questionable stuff that needs to be looked into. Wish the Feds would look into it but I'm sure there is more pressing things than C.C. Maybe there will be an attorney on this site that would offer up some thoughts about C.C

[sports-rings]

perhaps if us collectors pulled our resources together, we could start a class action suit against them. we would claim they damage the hobby and our collections by flooding the market with garbage and furthermore, they drive their victims from the hobby and that results in lower values of autographs.

If we did multiple lawsuits, we could probibly bankrupt them. We could even do multiple lawsuits againt their authenticators and drive them from the hobby.

Just like with OJ, it may be a lot easier to prove damages, in a civil lawsuit, then the government trying to prove and win a criminal conviction.

[Mr. Zipper]

They are just so "in your face" and blatant with the flood of fakes coming through eBay and elsewhere, I have to believe that there are investigations underway that will wipe out these cockroaches. The FBI doesn't take well to criminals thumbing their noses a few short years after one investigation closes.

The FBI got a ton of good press and goodwill out of Operation Bullpen... there's nothing stopping them from doing it again.

[ruth-gehrig]

Wouldn't it be funny if during the course of a lawsuit C.C was served with a subpoena to produce consigner records??

[mdschulze]

What the hell kind of experience and/or education must one have to become a professional authenticator? I just may start my own family business... have my 9 yr old sign "Babe Ruth" all day long, print the certificate, then off to the auction it goes! Get rich quick??