Fake Whitey Ford auto on eBay...PSA/DNA

David Atkatz · #1 03-18-2011, 02:16 PM

Who the hell would bother to fake a Whitey Ford autograph!?
(And even I have a hard time believing PSA really authenticated it.)

MacDice · #2 03-18-2011, 04:31 PM

What's next fake Bob Feller autographs?

HexsHeroes · #3 03-18-2011, 07:17 PM

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I know nothing about Whitey Ford autographs, other than they are/were fairly common. But I also have no idea how scarce a signed 1954 Topps card of Whitey Ford is either. But I do know there are plenty of niche collectors of signed sportscards. And I've been told many times that the most heavy collected team-oriented autographs are of the Yankees and Red Sox. So if the ratio of signed 1954 Topps cards to other Whitey Ford autographs is a one-out-of-ridiculous high number, I could see the strong potential for someone to attempt to capitalize on such a niche market, either lawfully, or not.

scmavl · #4 03-18-2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HexsHeroes

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I know nothing about Whitey Ford autographs, other than they are/were fairly common. But I also have no idea how scarce a signed 1954 Topps card of Whitey Ford is either. But I do know there are plenty of niche collectors of signed sportscards. And I've been told many times that the most heavy collected team-oriented autographs are of the Yankees and Red Sox. So if the ratio of signed 1954 Topps cards to other Whitey Ford autographs is a one-out-of-ridiculous high number, I could see the strong potential for someone to attempt to capitalize on such a niche market, either lawfully, or not.

I have a signed '54 Topps Whitey Ford. I doubt they are that scarce. Mine has JSA and I think I paid about 50 bucks for it.

GrayGhost · #5 03-19-2011, 08:16 AM

That number does match up in PSA's database, but there is no picture..haha.

I honestly can't fathom that being a good Ford. Ive seen autos from all thru his life, and none have looked like that.

perezfan · #6 03-19-2011, 11:14 AM

I'll play devil's advocate, and say it's real...

I've seen his signature like that, with the "flourish" absent at the end of the "Y" and the different style "F". It's a style you see less than 10% of the time, and perhaps it's his "hurried" version. But I have seen this different type continually authenticated by JSA and PSA, both.

canjond · #7 03-19-2011, 06:51 PM

I also agree with Mark. Here is another in-person auto:

#8 03-19-2011, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

(And even I have a hard time believing PSA really authenticated it.)

I don't - it only took me about 5 minutes of searching to find a number of PSA- and JSA-authenticated Ford autos that look just like it. Unless they're all fake, also.

Duluth Eskimo · #9 03-19-2011, 11:36 PM

One more vote for "real". For what it's worth.

GrayGhost · #10 03-20-2011, 06:46 AM

This thread is an example of one of the good things about this forum. I never had seen a Ford that looked like that, and now I'm reading about others like that that are authentic, and saw the ball. You learn something new all the time on here.

vintagetoppsguy · #11 03-21-2011, 12:41 PM

I still think it's a fake. I'm no hand writing expert, but I feel people's signatures don't change over the course of their life. Maybe I'm wrong. I do know that I obtained this Ford signature at a TriStar show in Arlington, TX probably 5-7 years ago. I also have a few other Ford autos that I didn't obtain in person, but they look the same.

Ford had a bottle of Coors light under the table and would take a drink when he thought nobody was looking. I was standing in another autograph line at the time and he caught me looking at him. He smiled, took a drink and put the bottle back under the table. Maybe too many Coors lights affect his signatures

BillyCoxDodgers3B · #12 03-21-2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I feel people's signatures don't change over the course of their life.

Actually, the exact opposite is true for anybody who picks up a pen. Each person's handwriting undergoes its own evolution over the course of a lifetime.

Also, I've seen Whitey drinking Coors Light at shows. One time, he signed his empty and gave it to a collector in exchange for a full bottle!

71buc · #13 03-21-2011, 10:55 PM

I agree that it is likely real. Here is one I got in person at show in 1994 for further comparison.

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