Beware Carterscards2006

[vintagetoppsguy]

Seems like the OP has a history of backing out of eBay deals...

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ed+by&ref=home

Edited to add 3 things:
1. I have been an eBay member for 8-1/2 years and have never had a negative (over 2600+ feedback).
2. I have never backed out of an eBay deal and I have bought thousands of items.
3. It makes me wonder how many other deals the OP has backed out of and we'll never know because sellers can no longer leave negative feedback.

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

David, How many times have you left a negative feedback?

One of the big problems with the old Ebay system was that people were afraid to leave negatives for for fear of retaliation, so if you never left any there is a good chance that you never received one.

I have had 2 negatives on ebay that were retalitory from sellers that I had to drop negatives too and were shortly there after gone from ebay (this can no longer happen on ebay).

I would guess that in all your transactions they were all not positive.

If you reread Todd's original post, you will see that a very big issue is the serious lack of communication from Carter, which to me is grounds alone for a negative. The rest of this thread has just blown into this big Monster that doesn't have much to do with the fact the Carter deserves a negative for his communication skills.

I have brought up a similar type of issue with the same results. THe thread just evolves into a thread that has nothing to do with the original posts.

Bottom line to me is if Carter responds there is a very good chance we have no problem and no thread.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Huh? What does the number of negs I've left have to do with anything? You're trying to spin the situation. I'm simply pointing out that 2 of his 3 negs are for backing out of eBay deals which shows a history that is important in this matter.

But, since you asked, I have left 16 negs and 2 neutrals in my eBay history and the majority of those were in the old feedback days when the seller could leave a negative. See for yourself:

http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?Use...ft+by&ref=home

Any more ridiculous questions about my feedback, or do you want to try to spin this another way now?

[CMIZ5290]

Please let me voice an opinion on this matter. I have purchased several cards from paul@ carterscards without a single issue. Let's face it, if you are buying a vintage gai card, you know what you are getting in to. Maybe you are lucky, maybe not. You will normally pay a fraction of the price compared to psa or sgc graded. That's the good thing. This hobby is not that simple as to think you can buy gai graded cards for $1k and then cross them to a psa or sgc grade and then get $3k for it. If he did not respond to your emails, i can understand the frustration there. Having said that, i have had very good luck with gai graded vintage cards as being the real deal. Hard to believe, but when gai first came out, their prices were bringing more than psa.

[BBSD]

Two grading services disagree and its the sellers fault. I agree its tied 1-1. If the card has been altered since the purchase why should the seller take it back, that would be terrible for him or her.

[Rich Klein]

Todd:

If this card had been graded by SGC with the same number grade as GAI, what is the worth of this card?

Rich

[rhettyeakley]

It seems like this post has "jumped the shark" a bit. I doubt Todd is going to be convinced to see things any other way, nor are those that seem to be disagreeing with him. At least it was interesting at the outset, now it seems to just be getting nasty.
-Rhett

[Sterling Sports Auctions]

David did you read the negs, one appears legit no pay, one looks like a misunderstand that got paid and the third is from a unregistered seller that Todd has canceled checks for.

Talk about spinning situations, heck you guys even got B& L involved and the only thing they have in common with this thread is that they sell graded cards.

As for why I asked the question to you it is exampled in the response. I am glad to hear that you have left negs, many did not for fear of retaliation.

It amazes me how questions asked such as my response, can be taken as attacks. Do what you must and think what you must, that's everyone's right.

Lee

[Rob D.]

I agree with Rhett.

[nolemmings]

David, I see you remain on a witchhunt. Believe me, this bull@#$% reflects much worse on you than it does on me. Ask anyone on this board--anyone, if they have had ever had anything other than a good transaction with me. I've partnered with many here on auction lots, even with thousands on the table, without anything but good results and smooth communications. How many here have dealt with you?

Yes, six years ago a so-called buddy wanted me to bid on 1971 Mattel football set for his kid, and then "changed his mind". Not seller's problem, but when I contacted her some days later (I had bid before I left town and won while gone) she read me the riot act before I could even explain and said she would neg me. At that point, I did indeed tell her to kiss my ass and fire away. I did not respond to her neg because I did in fact refuse to pay, although I have no idea where her story came from.

Other than that, I have backed out of zero deals--ZERO.

This @#$% has gone on long enough with some of you turds. I've been dealing with friends and others on this board long before you ever thought of coming over here, and will continue to do so long after you're gone. I don't need to nor will I explain my mailing practices, my professional life or anything else beyond what I have already. You don't like it then you too can kiss my ass.

[nolemmings]

Rich, I do not know what an SGC Stengel would go for in that or any other grade, other than to know what I might pay for it. I've had problems logging into VCP for a few months (no complaints Bobby, just haven't spent the time trying to get a new temp password). Maybe someone else can pull that info for you. I know my bid was just under $1500, and I won it for far less.

[CMIZ5290]

My god, please someone end this thread. Todd, the bottom line is you bought a gai card without any money back guarantee. All other crap expressed in this thread is irrelevant.

[CMIZ5290]

I can't imagine an sgc graded card bringing more than 1500-2000, psa different story.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

My god, please someone end this thread. Todd, the bottom line is you bought a gai card without any money back guarantee. All other crap expressed in this thread is irrelevant.

The way ebay/Paypal is currently structured, every purchase has a money back guarantee. It doesn't matter what the seller said. That's the way ebay is.

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by BBSD

Two grading services disagree and its the sellers fault. I agree its tied 1-1. If the card has been altered since the purchase why should the seller take it back, that would be terrible for him or her.

BBSD,

Reading comprehension may nor be your strong suit. The card has NOT been altered since the purchase. It is exactly the same.

[CMIZ5290]

jim- i think bbsd meant if it had been cracked out, altered, and then sent to sgc

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

jim- i think bbsd meant if it had been cracked out, altered, and then sent to sgc

I know what he meant. But from his comment, it's clear he either didn't read, or didn't understand this thread. The card is still in the original holder, and it says so in the thread.

[BlueDevil89]

I hereby post an open offer to buy all GAI pre-war graded cards of HOF players at VCP (VCP for GAI graded cards only, that is). I'll be cracking the cases and submitting the cards to SGC. Any cards that grade lower than the original GAI rating, I'll be returning to you for a full refund. I assume that you stand behind the GAI grades that are labelled on the slabs, and that you have closely inspected the cards through the plastic and are in agreement with GAI concerning their grades, and you are, therefore, not misrepresenting the cards in any way. If the cards come back from SGC lower by 2 grades or more or turn out to be trimmed, etc, I expect you to also cover all of my shipping charges, grading fees, etc.

Sounds like a foolproof plan, doesn't it --- you (the Sellers) take all the risk, and I (the Buyer) reap all the reward from the cards that successfully cross over. Your refund guarantee is my insurance policy.

Any takers?

[CMIZ5290]

well said chris

[bobbyw8469]

Sounds like a foolproof plan, doesn't it --- you (the Sellers) take all the risk, and I (the Buyer) reap all the reward from the cards that successfully cross over. Your refund guarantee is my insurance policy.

Chris, you hit the nail right on the head!! Ebay has a list of preapproved authenticators, but apparently they will contradict themselves and the 3rd party graders don't mean squat. This whole thing reeks with the problems that Ebay/TPGs fester.....