Brooks Robinson proofs/test/FINAL negatives/etc

[Mark70Z]

Dave... I did read your previous post (I wouldn't of missed it for the world that you heard there may have been another B. Robby proof. I was just seeing if anyone on this forum "knows" of another 3D proof card and/or a proof from the production process for the 3D card. Like you said, you figure there would be more than one (maybe not), but it would make sense. Wouldn't they have at least had a file photo, match print photo, negative, something from the development of that proof; even "if" there is only one Brooksie 3D proof?

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by Mark70Z

Dave... I did read your previous post (I wouldn't of missed it for the world that you heard there may have been another B. Robby proof. I was just seeing if anyone on this forum "knows" of another 3D proof card and/or a proof from the production process for the 3D card. Like you said, you figure there would be more than one (maybe not), but it would make sense. Wouldn't they have at least had a file photo, match print photo, negative, something from the development of that proof; even "if" there is only one Brooksie 3D proof?

The 3D cards were produced by Visual Panographics for Topps, so they would have sent copies over to Topps brass or had samples for a pitch meeting. The normal Topps process of internal pitch meetings may not have happened for this product as it may have been the outside vendor trying to sell Topps on the concept.

There is a single soccer card that may be a proof as well a player named Cane from Napoli so the 3D process may have been a concept pitched to another company or this was for Topps A&BC subsidiary in England. More here: http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/se...8%20Topps%203D click thru to the Olbermann article that mentions this card (very bottom of that link on the scd site).

There are "normal" 3D proofs/uncut cards as well in multiples.

[ALR-bishop]

In his SCD article a year or so ago KO described the many variations of each 3D card in the standard set. I saved it but don't remember the exact number. Almost all the cards have at least two back versions and several have distinct front variations. I have a set but my only variation is the Maloney dugout or no dugout versions.

Dave...you need to kidnap Woody Gelman before it is too late and hold him until he tells you all he knows. ( For any internet police who may be watching I am only kidding.... and know Dave to be a person of sound mind....well mostly )

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

In his SCD article a year or so ago KO described the many variations of each 3D card in the standard set. I saved it but don't remember the exact number. Almost all the cards have at least two back versions and several have distinct front variations. I have a set but my only variation is the Maloney dugout or no dugout versions.

Dave...you need to kidnap Woody Gelman before it is too late and hold him until he tells you all he knows. ( For any internet police who may be watching I am only kidding.... and know Dave to be a person of sound mind....well mostly )

Al-I am in the middle of some heavily researched stuff at the moment regarding not Gelman but the Shorin's. Some of it is going to be published in the Wrapper's next issue (#257) and some of it will be posted on my blog after that. If that's not enough, I am working on a guide to the early Topps cards of 1948-51. That last project will be where I dig into Gelman's particulars hopefully.

As for the Shorin family, I found a ton of new information on them over the past month and have a newfound respect for their business acumen to say the least!

As for sound mind, after that Punchouts post, I am not so sure....

[Mark70Z]

toppcat - is Wrapper's concerning the collection of "wrappers", i.e. baseball, football, etc.? Sounds like you do a lot of research into this type of stuff; since I'm a newbie, can you get me up to speed on what you collect and what type of research you do? (oh...and maybe clue me in on your blog; sounds like a very interesting read)

[ALR-bishop]

Mark---see the link 3 posts above

[Mark70Z]

Al - since that particular post I've been reading w/in this area (I'm not sure I should of started, because now I can't stop! Is this what toppcat was talking about when he mentioned "Wrapper's" and his blog? I assume these are two different areas where he is documenting.