Need help identifying premiums 11" X 14" multi-sport....... *Pics added

[fkw]

More info...

I got a chance to see these in person.

They are on heavy stock and are NOT flimsy at all, if you were to bend one slightly they would crease.
The backs are a textured bluish-gray color and many of them are discolored to a greenish yellow color from age around edges and you can tell they sat still somewhere for a long time in a stack.
No pinholes. Not all of them are stamped on back.

The newest pics I could ID are a Jackie Robinson sliding, and a Satchel Paige (sitting on ground against a fence in Cleveland Uniform), Pete Gray, a 1950 Era T.Williams, and some football/Olympics/Globetrotters that look to be ca1950.

No Babe Ruth, Joe Jackson, Mantle, Mays, etc. I suspect the Ruth was printed but is just one of the 30 missing from the 100 card set.

The earliest pic are a couple Pugilists from the 1880-90s, a 1895 Football team pic, a billiards player, and a very early Lajoie pic, then would be 2 1905 Era NY Giants pics, Mathewson, and Mathewson/McGraw/McGinnity.

4-5 woman golfers, 4-5 men golfers, a couple jockeys/horses, 3-4 race cars, 2 basketball (James Naismith and a early Globetrotters), 6-7 football, most were baseball... including 1919 Black Sox, Landis, etc.

I ran out of memory on my camera after 1/2 the stack so didnt get pics of the later cards, yet. The higher the numbers the more modern the pics. span was 1880s to ca.1950

a few examples of the non-baseball ones below
(if you can ID the football player, golfer, portrait, etc. that would help.)


Dempsey vs. Carpentier,Jersey City, July 2nd,1921
(thanks Clayton )


Bobby Jones


Thorpe


??


4 horsemen

[teetwoohsix]

Hey Frank- in the thread "Your Best Pickup of 2010" someone posted a picture of a 1930's Rogers Peet card of golfer Bobby Jones..........looks just like the golfer in your pics........check it out. Nice stuff by the way.

Sincerely,Clayton

[Peter_Spaeth]

SP - Scholastic Press?

[fkw]

I was thinking that too and searched Scholastic Press a couple days ago before I saw these in person and didnt find anything exactly. Scott brought it up that he remember seeing similar sounding pictures in school, so when I went I was thinking they might be the same age as the date stamped (1983), but after seeing them I think they are older, nothing at all after 1950s, some football ones and maybe an Olympic ones "looked" 1950s, but I couldnt ID the subject exactly, some action shots, etc.

Every single subject I saw is Sports related, so the SP might be that too ?

PS my internet is super slow so pics taking long time

[jcmtiger]

Frank, is this the same picture of Satchel Paige?

This picture is from the book "SATCHEL" The Life and Times of an American Legend.

Author Larry Tye, 2009.

At the bottom of the photo is the following:

Photo by George Silk/Time Life Pictures/Getty Images.

[fkw]

Yes thats the same Paige picture... with the Coke bottle

Thanks David for clearing up the checklist. I was trying to remember offhand how many football etc. there was in your group and I missed by a bit

[teetwoohsix]

I'm not sure on this, but could the singular photo of the football player be Harold "Red" Grange? He was all of the rage in the 1920's,,,I just can't be sure- maybe there are some vintage football junkies on the board ?

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha, Frank. Funny we didn't immediatly notice the lack of Hockey in this group. By the numbering I think #46 would have been Ruth, between #45 Cobb and #47 Gherig. Let's meet again in the next few days and photo all of them and list the actual #s and subjects. If we can't identify them in the next week or so, I will go to theoriginal library and see if any record or remembrance of these cards remains.
Also the first 50 are numbered SP- (then the number) and the last 50 are (the number first) then SP. Also the only card without the library stamp is Pete Grey STL BRN.

[teetwoohsix]

The boxing scene is Dempsey vs. Carpentier,Jersey City, July 2nd,1921.

[leftygrove10]

Frank:

Lefty Grove is shown in the bottom picture of your last group. It looks to me like the picture number is 52.

It's interesting to note that his is numbered "52-SP". Others are numbered "SP-47". I wonder why the SP comes first in some and second in others? I thought maybe it was even versus odd numbers, but after looking back through the pictures I realized that that was not the pattern.

Brad

[fkw]

The most interesting 2 baseball ones to me were the Satchel Paige, the pose is awesome, but I couldnt take a pic of it yet (ran out of memory), and also the Pete Gray one i thought was nice because if these are from the 1950s, it would be really the only period card of him (need to take a pic next time).
Others I can remember offhand that I ddint get pics of are DiMaggio, Musial, Feller, unidentified Lefty #32, Williams,

random Baseball related (more to come)


1919 Black Sox


Foxx


Ott


Wagner


Gehrig


Feller, Young?


Lefty Grove

(thanks Brad )

[fkw]

More Baseball


Landis


Speaker ?


Mathewson McGraw McGinnity


Mathewson


Jerome and Paul Dean


Bender


Hubbell


Lajoie

[fkw]

Ya Brad, some have the SP before the number, some after, I dont know what the ratio is though.
Im going to get a more detailed list later.


Im not good at football ID

who?


Johnny "Blood" McNally
(thanks Mike )


??


??

[D. Bergin]

1983 seems like an accurate date range based on the print style and the font. Maybe spread out a few years within that time frame.

They look similar in style to the "Fan Fotos" put out in the early 70's, but of better quality.

[Cardboard Junkie]

Aloha, Everyone! Here is a quick run down on this incomplete set. A more accurate list will be posted soon. I have 80 cards of what I assume is a 100 card set as I have SP-1 and SP-100. There are 27 cards baseball,14 cards football, 6golf, 3 race cars, 4 tennis, 2 basketball, 1 pool (billiards), 2 boxing, 1 (possible) wrestler, 1 yacht race, 4race horses/jokey. Also 15 others unidentified ice skater, bowler, olympians, etc. Conspicuous by its absence are anything hockey!!! They are definately "cards" HEAVY cardboard stock. Nothing like Fan Fhotos of the 70s they were papery as I recall, like small posters and no real boarders. Also the font used in the numbering system resembles typewriter font, not something that I can say is not from the fifties. Guessing I would say these cards are from 1950 or 51. A list of all 80 known cards will be posted soon, and with a little help from my friends all 80 of the cards I have will be photographed and posted. Aloha!

[Jason Carota]

Originally Posted by fkw

??

Hugh Duffy?



(Image courtesy of boston.sportsthenandnow.com)

[Mikehealer]

Frank,
The first picture in post #15 I think is Johnny "Blood" McNally. I am going on memory from a book I had as a kid and I haven't seen that book in over 30 years, so I could be wrong.

Found a scan on google images(same pose)

[Clutch-Hitter]

Great cards!

That Speaker card........that's the guy batting in the "Red Sox Warming Up..." postcard.