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Old 12-09-2010, 01:04 AM
Bosox Blair Bosox Blair is offline
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Chuck W.,

Thanks for posting the Wagner. I admit that card and the Young are now the only ones I've ever seen like that. I literally looked through thousands of scans of PSA T206 to check, and those remain the only 2 I've ever seen like that.

As I mentioned before, I have no problem with the # on the flip. That is not a warning sign to me because I've seen it many times, but always with "T206" and not "1911".

An example of that is on the red Cobb in this lot from last year's REA - it has the # and the T206 identification:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/...x?itemid=13347

As you can also see from that lot, the Johnson - a very old PSA graded card - also identifies by T206 only.

It is a mystery to me why for some period (which must have been very, very short) PSA put 1911 on these flips and not T206 .

Anyways, thanks very much for adding an important piece to the discussion.

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Old 12-09-2010, 07:01 AM
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The more I look at that back the less I think someone has doctored it with blue ink. I think the card was minimally pasted in a scrapbook, then torn out. (Oh, if they'd only soaked the card, instead of altering it by tearing part of the back.) The paste didn't stick where the print was, the print remained. I think if that card were seen in person the missing surface paper area would be up close to that "P", but not into it.

I understand the thread started out about the slip. It is a worn card, but it isn't as horrible as everyone seems to think. I won't win it, someone else has bid. They bid $60, I might have done that had I known how, as I looked at the site it seemed the next bid it would take was $75. Maybe someone can fill a hole in their collection.
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Frank I believe your absolutely correct about this card. If you look closely at the area just below the "Pi" in Piedmont you can see where the tear stopped.

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Chuck W.,

Thanks for posting the Wagner. I admit that card and the Young are now the only ones I've ever seen like that. I literally looked through thousands of scans of PSA T206 to check, and those remain the only 2 I've ever seen like that.
Your welcome, glad to help. I may not have a ton of card knowledge,
but I can do a mean google search!

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It is a mystery to me why for some period (which must have been very, very short) PSA put 1911 on these flips and not T206 .
My guess is that for a short period of time they had a new data entry
person who was not properly trained, and a few screw-ups made it past
the QC people. In fact, the initial mistake may have been made by the
original submitter, who incorrectly wrote "1911" on the submission form.

BTW, good eye on the back damage, Frank.

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