For Sale Artifically Aged Reprints $5.00 Makes Great Gifts See Pics

[doug.goodman]

I am not in favor of banning him, I am in favor of not responding to his posts, so that they drop quickly off the front page, and we don't have to be bothered by him.

And, I hope nobody responds to this post so that it will drop quickly off the front page, as well.

I'm confident that 100% of the real collectors who read these forums have the exact same initial thoughts on this guy and his "products". Arguing with him does nothing except keep him in the headlines.

Best regards,
Doug

[Griffins]

I'm in favor of banning listings for reprints.
I'm betting that will have the added benefit of effectively banning the OP.

[sbfinley]

And Leon thought this would be a calm Thanksgiving.

[Kawika]

Rarerookies: I don't have any problem with reprints in the hobby - they have their place. Charles Mandel produces a line of Helmar Brewing cards that have an "artificially aged" look which I rather like - I have even picked up a few. However, his cards are modern creations - they are not reprints which can be mistaken for a vintage issue. You paid enough rope to hang yourself by showing the Wagner back. How convenient that the copyright data didn't survive the aging process! "Once its outta my hands its outta my hands." 'Nuf ced about your ethics.
The Nazi book burning photo was a nice touch. I get it. We're fascist totalitarians because we object to your abetting fraudsters with your doctored reprints. (As a Jew maybe I should feel offended but I'm only saddened by your less-than-brilliant intellect). Actually we are merely collectors who try to enjoy a hobby despite the fact that it is ridden with every sort of scumbaggery already. You are part of the problem, dude. I don't think anyone is serious about banning you - the few guys who have been banned so far were majorly egregious douches and you are just a putz - but I do feel that you are not going to fit in with a lot of folks here.

[rarerookies]

I actually enjoyed this conversation. Its moved on from me trying to sell reprints to an ethical and moral debate. I didn't know that there was such an anti-reprint establishment among serious collectors. I thought of these more as novelty products. Replica rolex's, coach purses etc.

I enjoyed the conversation with you guys and will respect the wishes and not post anymore reprints for sale on this site.

I still believe an educated buyer wouldn't fall for a reprint but an uneducated buyer might. But these are the same people who respond to Nigerian Chain letters, buy lottery tickets and believe every too good to be true thing that pops up in there lives.

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I am not in favor of banning him, I am in favor of not responding to his posts, so that they drop quickly off the front page, and we don't have to be bothered by him.

And, I hope nobody responds to this post so that it will drop quickly off the front page, as well.

I'm confident that 100% of the real collectors who read these forums have the exact same initial thoughts on this guy and his "products". Arguing with him does nothing except keep him in the headlines.

Best regards,
Doug

[sox1903wschamp]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

I didn't know that there was such an anti-reprint establishment among serious collectors.

Always do your homework.

[buymycards]

I think one of the reasons that many of us don't like these reprints is that we were burned by them when we first started collecting. It might not have been a lot of money but it still stings. Think about wives wanting to buy their husbands a Xmas gift, or parents buying a gift for their children. They probably won't do the necessary research and they may end up buying some of this stuff. Add in kids buying for their own collections, and other collectors who are just getting into cards and the potential for problems increases.

It is the people on ebay who list these as real cards and put them in an auction format that seem to cause the most problems. At least you are selling them as reprints, but they should also be clearly marked as reprints. Maybe buy yourself a red rubber "reprint" stamp and stamp the cards.

Rick

[rarerookies]

I've been burned too. Both on a Rolex and some Mantle cards. Well the Rolex was actually my dumb fault. You see I wire transferred the money out of country (this was like 15 years ago) and never heard from or received the watch.

The '56 mantle was my fault. I was an uneducated buyer and got took for $400 bucks. Does it piss me off and make me wanna go burn the SOB's house down. Well maybe. Do I want to start an all out witch hunt and ban everyone selling reprints because of a select few illegitimate people. No

Its like the parents of kids who want to ban guns because the parent left a loaded gun in the house and didn't explain the totality of a bullet through the body. Its not the gun who killed the person its the person that pulled the trigger.

Just like its not the card that took money from you, it was the person you bought it from

Originally Posted by buymycards

I think one of the reasons that many of us don't like these reprints is that we were burned by them when we first started collecting. It might not have been a lot of money but it still stings. Think about wives wanting to buy their husbands a Xmas gift, or parents buying a gift for their children. They probably won't do the necessary research and they may end up buying some of this stuff. Add in kids buying for their own collections, and other collectors who are just getting into cards and the potential for problems increases.

It is the people on ebay who list these as real cards and put them in an auction format that seem to cause the most problems. At least you are selling them as reprints, but they should also be clearly marked as reprints. Maybe buy yourself a red rubber "reprint" stamp and stamp the cards.

Rick

[rhettyeakley]

Funny, I was wondering to myself today what the cost of buying someones sense of morality would be...apparently it's $5.

Good luck with your business model but these are such terrible looking "aged reprints" that I don't think they will be fooling too many people out there-probably a bummer for you. Honestly, I'm not really sure what you are getting out of all this as I don't see it being worth ANYONES time and effort to make these things for the big $5 (shipped) payday that awaits you. How can you attack someone elses profession in any way when you are willing to do this for a mere $5 (shipped)?

[ChiefBenderForever]

What is wrong with a Camry ?

[rarerookies]

I was stating a relevant point to the topic at hand. We left on good terms

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Funny, I was wondering to myself today what the cost of buying someones sense of morality would be...apparently it's $5.

Good luck with your business model but these are such terrible looking "aged reprints" that I don't think they will be fooling too many people out there-probably a bummer for you. Honestly, I'm not really sure what you are getting out of all this as I don't see it being worth ANYONES time and effort to make these things for the big $5 (shipped) payday that awaits you. How can you attack someone elses profession in any way when you are willing to do this for a mere $5 (shipped)?