I have no idea if this is true or not but it seems pretty odd that the key piece of evidence that gets harped on over there is the re-listing of a lot of modern cards.
Kruk has pallets full of a lot of this crap.
Are these alleged shills winning these lots? If so it doesn't make sense because Kruk would have to pay Ebay their share every time this happened and risk taking another loss each time they relisted the same item they are allegedly shilling.
I could also see a lot of flea market and show dealers using them as a source for material, explaining several bidders with recent bid histories of mainly Kruk based bids.
I guess it would all be cleared up if Ebay just made the bidding histories public. Some bidders are just strange. I had one guy bid on one of my auctions last week and retract the bid minutes later and listed the reason as "wrong amount"...........and then he never put another bid in. I was worried it might look like a shill from the outside looking in. If the bids were all made public it would make me feel better, as somebody trying to go about things as honestly as possible.
Makes me defensive every time I read somebody make the broad stroke argument that ALL sellers must be shilling because they couldn't possibly sell something on Ebay at below market value..........which is crap. I've sold plenty of stuff at supposed below market value. It comes with the territory that an item on Ebay with a 7-10 day window is usually going to sell for less then what somebody has it priced in a store setting and has it sitting there for months or years on end, waiting for the "right" buyer to come along.
On the other hand, if they ARE shilling, then burn 'em I guess.
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10-05-2010, 02:54 PM
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