New to the T206 club with 308 cards no Idea...

[Scott3Boy]

I am uploading the rest of the pics... If they are reprints I am not out much... what are the biggest indicators for future ref?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Scott3Boy

I am uploading the rest of the pics... If they are reprints I am not out much... what are the biggest indicators for future ref?

I saw the rest of your pics. All fakes. Likewise, Sovereigns do not have blue backs either.

I believe your story. I really don't think a scammer is going to take time to scan all those cards, front and back.

[Leon]

I absolutely believe the original poster was just posting to show his great find. Unfortunately, they are all fakes. Forget that they were on Craigslist (ok, so that is about 99.9% proof enough...but there was still a .01% chance they were real)....and see the explanations why they are not real. Some of them are just wrong color, some are obvious (well, up close all will be obvious) and some might actually look real but won't be. The paper will be wrong, the printing will be wrong, the feel will be wrong....and so forth. best regards

[Matthew H]

Don't take the comments posted personally. Every one here is just a little burnt out on all the fraud plaguing the hobby. Stick around and I promise you'll find friends here.

BTW, it is a great time to get back into the hobby. You will find a lot of great deals out there in this buyers market. I'd just advise against craigslist.

[ctownboy]

Just from the first pictures posted in this thread, I was suspicious.

The Cy Young cards in the sleeves looked thin and wavy. Taking into account these cards were ALL of the SAME players with the SAME backs, plus the thin, wavy stock AND Craig's List plus "old man selling these" story, my guess is these were cut out of a book. Something like a Scholastic elementary school book about old baseball cards.

So, no matter HOW much you paid for them, take the cards back to the seller, demand a refund and then report this person to Craig's List and the local police department. Fakes are fakes and every time a seller gets away with profiting from selling them, it just makes them want to try it again.

Thus, every time a new person to the hobby gets burned, it means one less possible collector in the future and it means REAL cards are devalued because no one wants to take a chance on buying them, even IF they are real.

David

[Scott3Boy]

Thanks for all the insight guys! I figured this would be the place to ask. I was really curious about the tobacco or funky musky smell they have... So I guess if they are reprints, does anyone track where "official" reprints are made? Like Scholastics that were mentioned... The old guy was on oxygen and had the nice no smoking sign on his door... he claimed that he was given this from is mother... He seemed kinda "slow" too... So I assume he got the better of me... Would anyone recommend that I even have any of these physically checked? The Cy Young with the Blue back threw my wife and I too as we couldn't find one for the life of us, but we did see comments were new backs were still being discovered so I was optimistic! Thanks again!

[barrysloate]

I wouldn't put any more time into this project except to get your money back.

And no new T206 backs have ever been found. What have been found are new front/back combinations.

[iggyman]

Tracking reprints is next to impossible (you can thank Al Gore and his invention of the personal color printer). Every Tom, Dick, and Potter can create their own reprints (albeit, most can easily be detected). With that said, the reprints you have are easy to spot because of the font used on the front and the color of the text (should be brown as opposed to black). Of course, the back sides are also a dead give-way.....oh, and the glare (T206's are usually not shinny).

The best defense for a new collector like yourself is a black light. I would learn how to use one before purchasing any more cards on Craiglist. Hang in there and chalk this one up as a lesson learned. Although, if I were you, I would really really really try to get the money back (just a hunch, but without recovery of the funds, I don't think your wife will let you make anymore purchases ).

Lovely Day...

[chaddurbin]

don't bother wasting anymore bandwith uploading these pics.

i have to commend you taking this so well...the cost of 309 cards with multiple youngs/mattys and spending hours taking pics and uploading only to find out they're fake. i would've ran back and traded the fakes for the oxygen tank.

edit: A+ on the worn and aged notebook cover...