Burcyzk isnt the only problem...GLOBAL GAI FRAUD ALERT!!!!!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by TATSR

It's been a while since I've watched one of Tom Tresh's videos, but I have to be honest. I keep waiting for the "gotcha" moment, when he actually proves something, but it never comes. He just keeps yelling "this one is fake, that one is fake. xx is selling fakes, yy is selling fakes. eBay lets them get away with it."

He's probably right, but I've never heard him produce any convincing evidence. Maybe there's something good buried within some of his videos, but I have yet to see it.

TATSR

Think about the fact that if he tells his audience what is wrong with the fakes that any forger out there will then try to correct the forgeries that they are producing.
Let us not do that, ok?
TT2 knows what he is talking about. Sometimes, you got to trust some people.
How many out there just send off their stuff to JSA or PSA and take their word for whatever they say?
Take TT2's word also.
He is not probably right, he is certainly right.
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[TATSR]

I don't think he has to reveal the secrets, but he keeps saying things like "This has a GAI COA. Would the new Global Authority pass this? Would PSA pass this? I don't think so!"

Why doesn't he send a bunch of those items in to find out? That would provide the "gotcha" moment that is convincing and compelling.

He keeps referring to Morales as Chris "never met an autograph he didn't like" Morales. Why doesn't he film himself faking some Mantles/Ruths and sending them to Morales for authentication. There's a "gotcha" moment. Without a gotcha, he's just loud and obnoxious.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by TATSR

I don't think he has to reveal the secrets, but he keeps saying things like "This has a GAI COA. Would the new Global Authority pass this? Would PSA pass this? I don't think so!"

Why doesn't he send a bunch of those items in to find out? That would provide the "gotcha" moment that is convincing and compelling.

He keeps referring to Morales as Chris "never met an autograph he didn't like" Morales. Why doesn't he film himself faking some Mantles/Ruths and sending them to Morales for authentication. There's a "gotcha" moment. Without a gotcha, he's just loud and obnoxious.

How would he send these items to PSA? He does not own them.
Should he waste money by doing that? He knows what the answer would be.
He does not a "gotcha" moment. He knows what he is talking about.

[tinkereversandme]

The hobby is better off for having TT2. The problem with this business is that too many people are quiet about what is going on. There is no outrage as in some ways, we have no course of action since the laws do little to make these scumbags think it's illegal. If you continue to have success with something and it's illegal, why would you quit? When he tells you that it's a forgery because "he knows", it's because he is right. How about a speakerphone conversation with one of these crooked authenticators?

The bottomline is that WE all know who the crooks are, but the people buying don't and that's probably not his target audience...which is a shame.

Larry

[3and2]

Originally Posted by tinkereversandme

The hobby is better off for having TT2. The problem with this business is that too many people are quiet about what is going on. There is no outrage as in some ways, we have no course of action since the laws do little to make these scumbags think it's illegal. If you continue to have success with something and it's illegal, why would you quit? When he tells you that it's a forgery because "he knows", it's because he is right. How about a speakerphone conversation with one of these crooked authenticators?

The bottomline is that WE all know who the crooks are, but the people buying don't and that's probably not his target audience...which is a shame.

Larry

I go to a card show about twice a year. I would say at least 1/2 the tables w/ autographs have those crappy COA's (Global, Stat, Scoreboard, Burczyk, etc.) I look and just move on. Perhaps, it is time I (and perhaps the honest people need to take a stand).

How can we change the culture where a dealer just doesn't feel safe or comfortable to place these items out for sale?

Regards,
Anthony