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08-22-2010, 04:38 PM
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dstudeba
Regarding your...... " From a scan Ted determines that it is a set of individual cards put together and goes public with this theory. After much discussion defending his view, he actually sees the piece in question, examines it through a slab, and determines that he is indeed correct. " "Ted", only ? ....... have you bothered to read thru this thread ? ? Most likely not....So, I refer you to Posts #5, 6, 15, 60. Those posts were from individuals, who ALSO question that these 5 images were NOT printed as an intact strip. Hmmmm, so what seems to be your problem with singling out only Ted ? Look we all agree on two things regarding this strip.... (1) It is an original pre-production piece printed in early 1909. (2) It is a tremendous T206 artifact. Some think it's a continuous strip, and others of us differ. The color differences in of the 5 images with respect to each other contradicts everything we know about American Litho's 6-color printing process. That, and other more subtle aspects of this artifact leads us to believe it is not exactly what it is advertised as being. TED Z 
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08-22-2010, 05:12 PM
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Ted- Leon posted that the previous owner of the card, Wayne Varner, said with certainty that it is a continuous strip. He owned it before it was slabbed and held it in his hand. Doesn't the controversy end right there? Can one of the original owners of the card be wrong? Seems like we've passed the point of it being debatable. That cinches it for me. Don't you agree with that?
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08-22-2010, 05:42 PM
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Are you saying SGC is wrong too?
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Ted - is there any chance at all that you and your friends who examined this piece just "might" be wrong this one time? Just maybe? I know I'm not perfect so I could be wrong. The professionals at SGC agree with me though so I feel like what I saw was most likely correct. I can only add that if SGC said I was wrong and that this was a creation by somebody that I'd have a good laugh because I was fooled. They get paid to know more about this than I do so I'd go with their professional opinion. I would think they would simply not holder the strip if they were unsure. Their reputation isn't worth the $50 holdering fee. Last edited by GoSoxBoSox; 08-22-2010 at 05:47 PM. Reason: spelling correction
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08-22-2010, 05:46 PM
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Ted- I do agree there are anomalies regarding this strip, and even to this day we are still not certain exactly how it was printed and presented to Wagner. But with Leon's post #74, at least the mystery of whether it's a continuous strip or five glued cards has been resolved. That was my only point.
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#5
08-22-2010, 05:57 PM
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Barry, I don't see how Leon's post, #74, resolves that it is a continuous strip. I doesn't resolve it for me... If it does for you then it does, for you, but not for everyone. And in that post, is Leon saying that Ted makes crap up, and/or that Ted can never admit being wrong?
Whatever it really is, however it came into being, it does seem to me to be something from just before the ATT's distribution of the white border tobacco cards, I agree that it is an artifact in T206 lore. I still think it's a preproduction paste up assemblage of what could be.
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08-22-2010, 06:15 PM
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Frank- I'm not going to speak for Leon, but Wayne Varner, who owned it for a period of time, said with certainty that it was a continuous strip. Where else but to the owner of the card would one go to settle this argument? Again, what am I missing?
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#7
08-22-2010, 06:20 PM
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How about SGC, Barry? You know. The premier pre-war grading company in our hobby that said it is an authentic proof. Thus, not a creation.
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08-24-2010, 11:53 AM
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