PSA set to encapsulate "TYPE" Photographs & Signed photos as well...

[53Browns]

Hi gang, I am very new to the forum and also new to vintage collecting. Can someone please tell me what a "type" photo is and also what the difference between a "type 1" and a "type 2" is? Thanks in advance!

[mr2686]

Well Jimmy, I shouldn't have said nothing ever leaves...for the most part, that is correct though. However, with all the opportunities to trade and sell on this board to upgrade important parts of my collection, I have found that my philosophy on that is slowly changing. It's obvious from your remarks that you
are heavily in favor of slabbing and it's no secret that you have a large collection of Type1's, so whether for collecting or investments, that would obviously work well for you. With that said, if you think that slabbing for authenticity is where it will stop, I think you're wrong. But no matter, if everyone wants to try and get all gem mint 10 type 1 photos just because some organization, that probably has less experience than you says so, well than go for it. I'll just take my little pat on the head and go collect raw photos like a good little boy.

[sphere and ash]

To answer your question: there is no such thing as a Type I or Type II photo. You can spend an entire lifetime working in the photography department at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, MOMA or the Getty and never once hear those words uttered.

All you need to know is whether a photograph is 'vintage,' which is to say that it was printed around the time the negative was produced. There is no specific time limit--it could be within 1, 5 or 10 years of the negative. There is usually no way to date a print so precisely; materials just did not change that quickly. The point is that the print should have been made close enough in time to have been printed with the same materials and artistic intention as a print done contemporaneously.

[perezfan]

I personally find it frustrating when the so called "Graders" know less than the collector who submits the item. I won't get into that here, but suffice it to say that it will be best if PSA simply authenticates the photos without trying to grade them (as they are currently promising).

I really feel disillusioned, seeing cards with a minute speck of paper loss that graded a 2 or 3 (when everything else it perfect). The whole grading process is preposterously subjective.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and this saying applies to vintage photos more so than any category I can imagine. I do see a need for the service (for those who cannot determine authenticity themselves) but I won't personally utilize it. People collect for different reasons, and there is no right or wrong. Those who don't like it should simply not use it.

[drc]

I'm the photo advisor to Beckett and I don't use the terms Type I etc. If someone at Beckett says Type II, I sometimes have to look up what it means as I've forgotten.

Type I, Type II etc is was a system I think devised by PSA to label photos. All one really has to know is type I means original.

I would like note what I do at Beckett. I don't physically handle or assign labels to photos, just occasionally answer questions about tough photos. Beckett is in Dallas and I'm in Seattle. I did originally meet the folks at Beckett in person before they started.

I always am happy give advice via email to collectors, and often do about photos. Don't worry I'm not a marketer and don't make commission. In fact, the head of grading at Beckett said one specific reason they asked me to be adviser is I was known in the hobby who was impartial, judging things on the facts and not having alterior motives. To prove this, I will state I've seen PSA authenticated photos and I thought the LOA's description were accurate, I think the Mastro Guide is good and I've already stated I'm not a fan of grading photos (authenticating is fine). I've never owned, bought or sold an entombed photo and have owned perhaps 8 professionally graded cards in my entire life. I've advised REA on photographs, but have never won or consigned anything to their auctions. I did bid once, but was probably outbid by the next day! REA's stuff is too expensive!

There are a number of other folks on this sitie who are knowledgeable about photos and can offer sage advice on that wirephoto or tintype.

David : webiste

[Johnphotoman]

What is wrong? I contacted Beckett for... Beckett Grading Services for their original photograph authentication and grading service.
This is the e-mail I receive:
Hi John,
Thank you for reaching out to Beckett!
Would like to advise you that we only authenticate Autographs on any Item, but do not grade the Item itself. For Non Autographed photos, would suggest you to connect with your local dealer or auction houses, thanks!
I will leave out the person who replied.

This was my reply:
Ok, We must have a misunderstanding. What I am interested in is your grading service for original photograph. I read that your company has launched an original photograph authentication and grading service.

There reply:
I apologize but that is not true, we have not launched photograph grading or authentication.
Let us know for any more questions, thanks!

So I answered showing where I got my info:
Beckett Grading Services has launched an original photograph authentication and grading service. From news photos, wire photos and movie stills to snapshots, Polaroids and mounted photos from the 1800s, BGS will grade them all. It also will provide a choice between authentication and encapsulation only or slabbing with with a numerical grade. Both services provide the best preservation and presentation capabilities on the market.

BGS will team with noted photograph expert and art historian David Rudd (www.cycleback.com).

For more information, call (972)-448-9188 or visit www.beckett.com/photos

https://www.beckett.com/news/beckett...intage-photos/

Waiting on the answer: Can anyone tell what is going on?

[philo98]

Originally Posted by Johnphotoman

What is wrong? I contacted Beckett for... Beckett Grading Services for their original photograph authentication and grading service.
This is the e-mail I receive:
Hi John,
Thank you for reaching out to Beckett!
Would like to advise you that we only authenticate Autographs on any Item, but do not grade the Item itself. For Non Autographed photos, would suggest you to connect with your local dealer or auction houses, thanks!
I will leave out the person who replied.

This was my reply:
Ok, We must have a misunderstanding. What I am interested in is your grading service for original photograph. I read that your company has launched an original photograph authentication and grading service.

There reply:
I apologize but that is not true, we have not launched photograph grading or authentication.
Let us know for any more questions, thanks!

So I answered showing where I got my info:
Beckett Grading Services has launched an original photograph authentication and grading service. From news photos, wire photos and movie stills to snapshots, Polaroids and mounted photos from the 1800s, BGS will grade them all. It also will provide a choice between authentication and encapsulation only or slabbing with with a numerical grade. Both services provide the best preservation and presentation capabilities on the market.

BGS will team with noted photograph expert and art historian David Rudd (www.cycleback.com).

For more information, call (972)-448-9188 or visit www.beckett.com/photos

https://www.beckett.com/news/beckett...intage-photos/

Waiting on the answer: Can anyone tell what is going on?

Considering that was posted 11.5 years ago, maybe Beckett never followed through or had a chance of course in the last decade?? I could be wrong, but its just a guess.