Please Explain the Pete Rose Rookie to Me

[Wesley]

Something about swimming in the sea of mediocrity. There may be 347 SGC grade Rose RCs and thousands of PSA graded ones and tens of thousands of ungraded ones, but the Gem Mint copies are far and few between.

[JP]

I know there is only one PSA 10 and it went for somewhere north of $80k when it was auctioned...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Because some people buy the label not the card, plain and simple. Crack it out, resubmit, it comes back a 9, and poof.

[4815162342]

I've never been able to see the difference between a 9/96 and a 10/98. I most certainly can't distinguish between a 98 and a 100.

[Robextend]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

I've never been able to see the difference between a 9/96 and a 10/98. I most certainly can't distinguish between a 98 and a 100.

The biggest difference I have seen between a 96 and 98 is centering. I have seen 96 cards that are slightly off (60/40), but a 98 should pretty much be 50/50. Now the difference between a 98 and 100....your guess is as good as mine.

[FUBAR]

Personally, i let the fools part with all their money paying outrageous prices for a card that you cant tell the difference of. What truly is the difference between mint and gem mint. and is it worth 80k to you to show off that difference?

Rose rc's guide in Beckett for $1000 in nr mint condition. Personally, i wouldnt pay more for one then that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

My belief is if you took (hypothetically) 100 9s and 100 10s, cracked them all out and resubmitted them, there would be no statistical correlation between the first and the second grades.

[bbcard1]

FWIW, it is a tough card...during my professional ballcarding days, I owned scads of T206, a couple of Namath Rookies, but I never had a single Rose rookie walk into my shop.

[uffda51]

Could it be the McMullen family trying to corner the market?

[botn]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Crack it out, resubmit, it comes back a 9, and poof.

That is a best case scenario. However there is still a chance that Pro or CSA would holder it as Gem Mint. The good news is that the graders at SGC will stand behind the grade.

[sportscardtheory]

I don't see how anything in this hobby can shock anyone within the hobby. You would get a Plank graded, no? You don't think a Gem Mint Plank should get more than an ungraded beat-up Plank? It's the same principle with the Rose, except a Gem Plank would sell for a LOTTT more than $80,000.

[M's_Fan]

Originally Posted by sportscardtheory

I don't see how anything in this hobby can shock anyone within the hobby. You would get a Plank graded, no? You don't think a Gem Mint Plank should get more than an ungraded beat-up Plank? It's the same principle with the Rose, except a Gem Plank would sell for a LOTTT more than $80,000.

I understand that a high graded Plank would go for much more than $80k. This is because, of course, there are 100 Planks known to exist, but there are thousands of 1963 Rose rookies out there.

I'm just amazed that people drop this kind of coin to get the highest graded example. Especially because there is a significant likelihood, 1963 not being that far away, that more and more high graded examples will surface. And as many have said, you really can't tell the difference between these high grades, yet people will pay thousands more just because the label says its higher. That is insane to me.

[4815162342]

Quick turnaround:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1963-PETE-ROSE-R...item3a5a868ff0