Could be getting scammed ??

[Clark7781]

I'm saddened to hear that it is a member of "one of us."

Please PM me the member's name, which I will keep in confidence, so I know to steer clear away from said person.

[FUBAR]

the empty envelope is just another way to get their money back through paypal. Paypal will side with them and you are now out the money and the card. this is the exact reason i will never use paypal again.

It should be , if they decline insurance, they are responsible.....

sucks, what kind of man would "con" or "steal" just to get a card!

[nebboy]

The PO charges by weight, if a small bubble mailer was shipped empty the postage would be .44 cents. If it had the 2 cards it should change the postage to at least .88 (if in top loaders) or more for slabed cards. Plus the cost of conf.

Just a though, hope it helps.

[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by nebboy

The PO charges by weight, if a small bubble mailer was shipped empty the postage would be .44 cents. If it had the 2 cards it should change the postage to at least .88 (if in top loaders) or more for slabed cards. Plus the cost of conf.

Just a though, hope it helps.

Sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I also just went through a very similar issue on Ebay, and was pleasantly surprised when I was able to overturn an Ebay decision that had originally sided with the buyer. In my case, I had sent a fairly bulky hockey jersey via the post office and the buyer, a fairly new (not a lot of feedback) Ebayer claimed that the box arrived empty. This may have been the case (perhaps a postal employee took the item etc) but the buyer hadn't attempted to contact me to try and resolve the issue, nor ask if I had any insurance on the shipment etc (which I had). Once I was informed that the case was opened agaisnt me and that the issue was as it was, I contacted the buyer via Ebay messaging and he never responded.

I pointed out the lack of contact to the Ebay folks, along with the proof that the postage amounted to over $15 (more than an empty box would warrant) and they overturned their original decision and sided with me.

I was surprised, as I have had a few unrelated Ebay issues go the other way over the years, each when I was being defrauded. It didn't hurt that I have 100% positive feedback either.

My advice, state you case sooner rather than later, back it up with the info you have, try to contact the buyer through Ebay messaging and good luck.

chris

[baseball tourist]

Originally Posted by baseball tourist

Sorry to hear that this has happened to you. I also just went through a very similar issue on Ebay, and was pleasantly surprised when I was able to overturn an Ebay decision that had originally sided with the buyer. In my case, I had sent a fairly bulky hockey jersey via the post office and the buyer, a fairly new (not a lot of feedback) Ebayer claimed that the box arrived empty. This may have been the case (perhaps a postal employee took the item etc) but the buyer hadn't attempted to contact me to try and resolve the issue, nor ask if I had any insurance on the shipment etc (which I had). Once I was informed that the case was opened agaisnt me and that the issue was as it was, I contacted the buyer via Ebay messaging and he never responded.

I pointed out the lack of contact to the Ebay folks, along with the proof that the postage amounted to over $15 (more than an empty box would warrant) and they overturned their original decision and sided with me.

I was surprised, as I have had a few unrelated Ebay issues go the other way over the years, each when I was being defrauded. It didn't hurt that I have 100% positive feedback either.

My advice, state you case sooner rather than later, back it up with the info you have, try to contact the buyer through Ebay messaging and good luck.

chris

sorry, should have read that your issue was with a board purchaser. Perhaps the Ebay situation will help another in this position.

[ChiefBenderForever]

So who done it?

[T206DK]

is it ok for me to name names here ? I don't want to violate any policies

[D. Bergin]

Nice. Looks like Paypal/Ebay has opened up another can of worms. Used to be the seller was covered with Delivery Confirmation under $200. Signature confirmation over $200.

Now, it seems all the buyer has to do is claim an opened box or package in order to get a free item.

I think the Post Office is more reliable then to have to do that. In the last 11+ years I've completed thousands of transactions, both buying and selling and have yet to ever have someone claim they received an empty package from me.........and I have never received one in return.

Now they are forcing us to pay for insurance on inexpensive packages, or risk being scammed indiscriminately.

[Chicago206]

Wow! What a crappy situation.

I was in a similar situation until just today. I bought a Wid Conroy from a fellow forum member for $45. He emailed me when he got the money, and said card was in the mail. That was Feb 26th!!! Around Mar 9th, I contacted him to say no card yet. He said he couldnt find the DEL CONF slip and wanted to issue me a refund and apology. I passed on his offer as I didnt even care about the cash, I was too bummed about not getting the Wid. He replied that if the card was returned to him, he'd remail it, or send me my money back. The card finally arrived today....with the postmark showing Feb 26th. By far the longest a package has ever been in the mail in my experiences!

Originally Posted by Clark7781

I'm saddened to hear that it is a member of "one of us."

Please PM me the member's name, which I will keep in confidence, so I know to steer clear away from said person.

NO the person who is fraudulant should be outed so we all can know to stay away from any dealings with him/her. Name and login ID are great as most people have similar on ebay and so on. Just helps keep us from being ripped off

[Chicago206]

Originally Posted by Pup6913

NO the person who is fraudulant should be outed so we all can know to stay away from any dealings with him/her. Name and login ID are great as most people have similar on ebay and so on. Just helps keep us from being ripped off

With all due respect, there are 2 sides to every story, and we havent heard from the "other" guy. So I dont think "outing" just yet is called for publicly. However, having said that, I did just PM the thread starter to ask for his username so I can avoid him in any future dealings. Private is the way to go at this point IMO.

[FUBAR]

i agree, keep it private if you need to know....

[glynparson]

his name would have been in the first thread. This is b.s. if you are being honest out the "thief".

[glynparson]

at least get him on here to tell his side. Seems fishy he has yet to respond to this thread.

[oriolesbb6]

Anyone who immediately makes threats is suspect at best. I live in NJ and have not had no issues. This is a scam going around via paypal/ebay with their new screw the seller program-no recourse aka feedback, etc. Sorry to hear it, I have been buying a bunch off B/S/T here and would appreciate a PM just in case.

[jim]

A person and I might be doing a trade here on the bst. We both would like to know that the person we might do business with here on the bst is not the offending party. How about some transparency here.
jim