American Caramel E121 series of 80 survey revisited

[brianp-beme]

Hooray...a virtual floodgate of info. Due to the input (thanks Rhett, Erik Brian and Andy), I will revise/expand the lists below to reflect this new information. Thanks for the scan Erik...this card has shifted lists because of you. As is obvious if you check out his website, Rhett has studied this set quite extensively, and I will defer to his knowledge. Some great theories about the New York player angle...it makes a lot of sense. I will not consider the type 3 backs as discussed by Rhett as of yet, so that things don't get too confusing. And as corresponds to what Rhett mention, the two Gassler Bread cards I own are Causey and Ward, both of which are listed below as potentially issued only with the ends in 'eighty' back variation.
A question for Rhett--are there two versions of the Roth card? I have never seen the Roth, so don't know what other pose there is besides 'arms extended', which I haven't seen either.
Here are the updated lists.


Cards that possibly do not exist in the E121 series of 80 set:

G.C. Alexander (arms above head)
Ty Cobb (throwing, Face Front)
Alexander Gaston (with position)
Alexander Gaston (no position)
Fred Schupp (not 'Ferd')
Tris Speaker (batting-small projection)


E121 series of 80 cards that possibly are only available with first line ends in 'eighty' back variation:

Frank Baker (not J.Franklin Baker)
Cecil Causey
"Rip" Collins
"Phil" Douglas (must have quotation marks)
"Mike" Gonzalez
Harry Harper
M.J. McNally
R. Meusel
Elmer Miller
Roger Peckinpaugh (correct spelling of last name)
Jack Quinn -- also seen with 'type 3' back
John Rawlings
Robert Roth
George Ruth (first name George)
Bill Ryan
"Slim" Sallee w/no ball
"Pat" Shea (must have " ")
Earl Smith
Aaron Ward


Thanks again everyone,

Brian