T206 "Brown" Old Mill Southern League Back...Legit?

[rebelsart]

I used to own these T206 with brown Old Mill backs:
Thornton (same one Jerry used to own).
Kiernan

Those are the only two that I can remember. Both are from nearly 10 years ago.

Art M.

[edhans]

Rhett,
I found one of those violet E254s a couple years ago. I hadn't seen one previously. As you know the difference is even more pronounced when you view them in person. I sent it in to SGC to be slabbed. They acknowledged that the ink was a different color, but wouldn't put it on the flip until it was listed in the SCD catalog. I searched high and low for months to find a mate to it. Finally, a board member found three more at the Chicago National. I sent the 4 to Don Fluckinger last year and asked that the variation be acknowledged in the 2010 book. Check the write-up and you'll see the results.

[tedzan]

I think you posted the above post in the wrong thread.


TED Z

[tedzan]

Thanks Art M and thanks to several Net54 readers, we now have 10 confirmed Brown OLD MILL
Southern Leaguers.

Bay
Bernhard....................Brown OLD MILL
Breitenstein
Carey
Coles
Cranston
Ellam.........................Brown OLD MILL
Foster
Fritz
Greminger..................Brown OLD MILL
Guiheen
Helm.........................Brown OLD MILL
Hickman
Hooker
Howard
Jordan
Kiernan......................Brown OLD MILL
Lafitte
Lipe
Manion
McCauley
Molesworth
Mullaney
Otey
Paige.........................Brown OLD MILL
Perdue
Persons
Reagan.......................Brown OLD MILL
Revelle........................Brown OLD MILL
Ryan
Shaughnessy
Smith (Atlanta).............Brown OLD MILL
Thornton.....................Brown OLD MILL
Violat

Now were on a roll....hey guys, any more of these out there ?


TED Z

[edhans]

Hi Ted. I was replying to Rhett's post (#25 above, since edited). A thousand apologies for the hijack.

[tedzan]

At this point, with as many as 10 confirmed Brown OLD MILL Southern Leaguer's, I think there is a fair probability that there will
be more reported.

As far as them being legit, in my opinion they are the result of mistaken printing; therefore, they should be considered as "scrap".

I will be posting further information on this topic later tonight (or tomorrow). Meanwhile, keep the inputs rolling in.


TED Z

[triwak]

Guys, I think JP's post #23 about the little splash of brown ink in the bottom right corner might be VERY significant! It appears on every brown Old Mill in this thread, although I'm having a hard time seeing it on the graded Helm in post #7. If this is a "real" marker, it would be a big deal, no?! Why no comments on this?

[DixieBaseball]

Clear up some confusion re/ ink spot - Jim's Revelle OM Brown is the only scan w/ ink spot. The other scan in this thread (Helm), does not have one. Also, I think Ted inadvertantly counted Brown Hindu Ellam as a Brown Old Mill reverse. Jim and I were comparing color backs from Brown Hindu, Brown Old Mill, and Black Old Mill. We did this in a handful of post, including the BL and Lenox scans. Ted, unless some one claims a Ellam Brown Old Mill, strike it from your list. Also, JP's point is a good one, but unfortunately I think he is looking at the same Brown Old Mill Revelle card in several post. Maybe I missed something, so please double check me, but I think there are only 2 Brown Old Mill Scans in this entire thread. Obviously the scans coupled with many SL names, have contributed to the confusion.

[cfc1909]

Originally Posted by triwak

Guys, I think JP's post #23 about the little splash of brown ink in the bottom right corner might be VERY significant! It appears on every brown Old Mill in this thread, although I'm having a hard time seeing it on the graded Helm in post #7. If this is a "real" marker, it would be a big deal, no?! Why no comments on this?

Jeremy is correct-all the same back scan. I have scans of 3 different and about 4 to 6 coming. I only own one-the Revelle Jerry used to own -the ONE with the mark of ink in the corner.

[toppcat]

Originally Posted by triwak

Guys, I think JP's post #23 about the little splash of brown ink in the bottom right corner might be VERY significant! It appears on every brown Old Mill in this thread, although I'm having a hard time seeing it on the graded Helm in post #7. If this is a "real" marker, it would be a big deal, no?! Why no comments on this?

I think most of the above scans are of the same back, need to blow the tops ones up some more though.