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Old 02-23-2010, 10:26 AM
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Thanks for answering my question,I do appreciate that.

Everything you've said makes perfect sense.I do respect your opinion,as well as the facts.Looking forward to seeing where all of this goes.........

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Old 02-23-2010, 11:15 AM
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A summary of the 68 cards that make up Coupon Type 1

68 total cards

20 of them are SLers--Coupon type 1 contains all the Southern Association SLers of T206. 16 are from the 150/350 SLer group of T206 and 4 are from the 350-only SLer group.

6 of them are the T206 Superprints. Coupon type 1 contains all the T206 superprints.

42 remaining cards are all 350 only subjects of T206. I'm not sure why these 42 of the 208 350-only T206 series were designated for inclusion in Coupon Type 1, but I am actively pursuing clues.

It's understandable to have the Southern Association SLers included, certainly advisable to include the 6 superprints (the most popular players of the time), but why randomize 42 of 208 subjects? The answer may come with closer inspection of the included and excluded subjects as well as documented T206 brand patterns....
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Alright,here is a breakdown of the 21 teams represented in T213-1 with the amount of players represented for each team.......

1)Detroit-8
2)Cincinnati-7 (2 are Huggins)
3)Brooklyn-5
4)N.Y.Amer.-5 (2 are Chase)
5)N.Y.Nat'l-5 (2 are Meyers)
6)Montgomery-4
7)Nashville-4
8)Boston Nat'l-3
9)New Orleans-3
10)Phila.Amer.-3
11)Atlanta-2
12)Chicago Nat'l-2
13)Little Rock-2
14)Mobile-2
15)St.Louis Amer.-2
16)St.Louis Nat'l-2
17)Memphis-2
18)Washington-2
19)Birmingham-1
20)Cleveland-1
21)Pittsburg-1

So,it seems like Detroit & Cincinnati have the most players represented,and Birmingham,Cleveland,and Pittsburg have the least players represented.
Maybe this will help when trying to figure out the signifigance of players included and excluded.Note-The 5 teams with the most players represented do not represent the Southern League.

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Detroit would make sense as they made it to the 1909 World Series. These little pieces of card board were put in the packages to sell cigarettes, so the more popular the team and subjects the more desire to buy another pack.

As a period Charlotte Observer reveals--it wasn't just smokers buying cigarettes, kids went crazy over them as well--kids would buy the packs for a nickel, remove the cards, then resell the cigarettes at half price--I'm paraphrasing.
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So,that would sort of make me think this series may be closer to the 1910 issue date more so than 1911?
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Absolutely and as early as 1909.
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There was never any question that this set was NOT any other than a 1910 issue. The 48 Major Leaguers in this set
were selected from the 350 series, which we know for certain was printed and issued as early as the Winter of 1909
and through most of 1910.

If this set included subjects from the T206 460 series, then perhaps it was issued in 1911. But, I must repeat, there
are no 460 subjects in it.
Furthermore, do not be confused by the 6 super-prints in this set. When this set was printed, the 6 super-prints were
strictly 350 series cards. It wasn't until later in the timeline of the T206 series that American Litho. extended these 6
super-prints into the 460 series.


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Thanks for clarifying that Ted,I appreciate it.The reason I was slightly confused on the date was from what I read in the Encyclopedia of Baseball Cards,Vol.3........it states "a probable date of issue is 1910 or 1911".

After your explanation,I feel 100% certain you are correct.

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