Coupon Type 1--Notes & Facts

[E93]

Originally Posted by drdduet

After reviewing my notes--


The 4 SLer Coupon subjects not from the T206 150/350 series SLers are Hart, Hart, Lentz, and Rockenfeld. There are the only Southern Association SLers in the 14 subjects of the T206 350 only SLers.

My brain might be in meltdown mode at the end of the day (I just finished reading two articles on philological methodology that I assigned to my grad students for a seminar tonight), but can you re-phrase this point. I did not get it.

Thanks,
JimB

[drdduet]

Yes JimB,

There are 48 Southern Leaguers in T206. Of those, 34 subjects are in the 150/350 SLer group and 14 are in the 350 only SLer group--as per "Inside T206" by Scot Reader.

Of those 48, Coupon type 1 contains 20 of those SLers--16 from the 150/350 SLer group and 4 from the 350 only SLer group. Those 20 are all the Southern Association player across both T206 SLer groups. Thus Coupon (type 1), most likely because of its regional distribution ,chose to include all the Southern Association minor leaguers from T206.

[drdduet]

Hi Rob,

And only Polar Bear contains O'Hara and Demmitt St. Louis, only EPDG was distributed by factory #17, only American Beauty is narrow, only Sweet Cap have overstrikes, only Polar Bear has white lettering on the reverse, all but Polar Bear were distributed with cigarettes, all but Hindu were issued in the same color print, etc.

Thus is the mystery and magnificence of T206.

[caramelcard]

You meant to say, "Thus is the mystery and magnificence of T206-1, T206-2, T206-3, T206-4, T206-5, T206-6, T206-7, etc, etc."

Or should we call it "the set formerly known as T206?"

[QUOTE=drdduet;784804]all but Hindu were issued in the same color print,

QUOTE]

Didn't some one find that AB T206's had 2 different green types? Also this excludes the OM's also

[drdduet]

Yes Andrew,

You are correct that would be 3 of the existing T206 brands having issued different colored print on the reverse--AB-green, lighter green; OM-brown, black; and Hindu-red, brown. My mistake.

[Abravefan11]

There was a thread not too long ago regarding two different shades of green for the Sovereign backs. Ted Z described one as green and the other as apple.

[sreader3]

Just to recap, the 34 150/350 Southern League subjects were printed with Brown Hindu, Old Mill Southern and (in relatively small quantities) Piedmont 350.

The 14 350-only Southern League subjects were printed with Old Mill Southern and (in relatively large quantities) Piedmont 350. They were not printed with Brown Hindu.

Since Piedmont production dwarfed Hindu production, the 14 350-only Southern League subjects are more prevalent than the 34 150/350 Southern League subjects, despite their availability with one fewer back type.

Scot

[E93]

Originally Posted by drdduet

Yes JimB,

There are 48 Southern Leaguers in T206. Of those, 34 subjects are in the 150/350 SLer group and 14 are in the 350 only SLer group--as per "Inside T206" by Scot Reader.

Of those 48, Coupon type 1 contains 20 of those SLers--16 from the 150/350 SLer group and 4 from the 350 only SLer group. Those 20 are all the Southern Association player across both T206 SLer groups. Thus Coupon (type 1), most likely because of its regional distribution ,chose to include all the Southern Association minor leaguers from T206.

Thanks much.
JimB

[FrankWakefield]

Hogwash.

[teetwoohsix]

There is no way one can argue with the facts presented on the similarities & timeframes of which T213-1 coupons were made,and how they compare to T206 in regards to dates,artwork,distribution,etc.,etc.,.....

I also have a feeling if EPDG had another design or two or three and had used blue or red or purple ink to list the players name and team designation that Burdick would have felt EACH EPDG would then need to be grouped into its own catagory,therefore EPDG would've been EXCLUDED from the T206 set-I only use this as an example.We would have the same result that we now have with the T213-1's,T213-2's and T213-3's.You could use any singular tobacco brand in place of EPDG for this example-like Tolstoi.

That is the point I'm trying to make.It is not an error,it makes the most sense(in my opinion).If there were no 2nd and 3rd series Coupon,the type one Coupon would HAVE ALREADY BEEN a T206.

I would like to hear what the benefit of reclassifying the type 1 Coupon as a T206 would be?

Sincerely,Clayton

[drdduet]

Hi Clayton,

The benefit to classify T213-1 as T206? I think it would benefit the collecting world by classifying it more accurately. As a T206 collector it would make a difference on what I consider a complete back collection. As a New Orleans brand collector, it would cost me a whole lot more to continue to acquire T213-1's.

The true benefit is in the scholarly activity.

[drdduet]

On another note, I'm in total agreement with the Standard Catalogue of Baseball Cards where it states that Coupon types 1, 2, and 3 are each distinct issues.

Thanks Scot, As I read your latest edition of "Inside T206" I couldn't help but "see" where Coupon Type 1 fits snuggly into T206. Your work is truly outstanding.