Autographalert.com ????

perezfan · #1 01-23-2010, 04:22 PM

I noticed the same exact thing (which was most disturbing), and agree completely with J. McMurry...

HOFAUTOS · #2 01-25-2010, 01:15 AM

Steve Koschal and Mike Frost.

tinkereversandme · #3 01-28-2010, 12:08 PM

You are correct J. McMurry.

Frost and Koshal. That's actually amusing to me because they always list themselves as experts when they need to prove a point for their argument.

They own an authenticating company themselves so they set up a blog to attack other authenticators? Has anyone ever seen anything authenticated by these two? I haven't.

The BS portion that I mentioned above is due to the fact that they have a strict agenda. They don't exist to better the hobby, but merely attack who they choose.

I see one piece on Morales, one on SCD and no mention of Coach's Corner or STAT because their focus appears to be on PSA/DNA, JSA and a new target in Autograph Collector's Editor, Steve Cyrkin.

It would have value in this hobby if it had focus, and wasn't so biased.

Thanks,
Larry

keithsky · #4 01-28-2010, 04:32 PM

I have contacted them before about why they don't jump all over Coach's Corner, Stat and Morales and told me (not quoting) something like it's not worth the time. But they do jump all over PSA and JSA for some reason. I agree with them on some of the stuff they find out about PSA and JSA but if your finding fault with those two you have to do all the third party authenticators and the problem auction houses. PSA and JSA aren't the only bad ones out there. The hobby needs to be cleaned up and it has to include all the bad guys.

J.McMurry · #5 01-28-2010, 05:40 PM

Isnt Koschal listed as one of the authenticators for Heritage Auctions?

I understand why they are piling on PSA and JSA,it's because they are the most popular,but if AA's "campaign to clean up the hobby" is just a marketing ploy to increase market share,then they are a waste of my time and belong in the gutter with the forgers they rant against.

tinkereversandme · #6 02-02-2010, 11:32 AM

Autographalerttruth.com is a nice compliment to Autograph Alert. And there is another site called www.autographdealernews.com that talks about Koschal as well.

My favorite was the Mastro deposition (November 2009 link) where Koschal is noted as not having steady income, hasn't been used as an authenticator for three years and is not qualified to render an opinion by the court of law. That's the short version. And Mike Frost got some Mante's authenticated by Frangipani.

So I guess what happens is that Koschal attacks you and you start a site attacking him. It's all kind of fun to read.

Cheers,

Larry

RichardSimon · #7 02-02-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinkereversandme

Autographalerttruth.com is a nice compliment to Autograph Alert. And there is another site called www.autographdealernews.com that talks about Koschal as well.

My favorite was the Mastro deposition (November 2009 link) where Koschal is noted as not having steady income, hasn't been used as an authenticator for three years and is not qualified to render an opinion by the court of law. That's the short version. And Mike Frost got some Mante's authenticated by Frangipani.

So I guess what happens is that Koschal attacks you and you start a site attacking him. It's all kind of fun to read.

Cheers,

Larry

In the Mastro-Daniels case, referred to above as the Mastro deposition, basically the judge said that only scientifically trained individuals could render opinions in Indiana courts about authenticating autographs. According to his ruling PSA, JSA, Koschal, myself and others of similar training would not qualify to render opinions in courts in Indiana. This ruling applies to courts only located in Indiana.
I think the hobby holds a different view of the non-scientifically trained authenticators.
PSA's attorney did get the judge to dismiss Daniels' suit against them, but that had nothing to do with authentication.

pscolgrafs · #8 01-28-2010, 05:43 PM

I haven't been on in a while and this is an interesting topic. I too have e-mailed AA about the same thing and got the same response.

When this site first came to fruition, I was rather excited about yet another outlet that brings forth the serious issue of fraud that is destroying this business. It used to have a great deal of value, but now with the public one-0sided fighting with Cyrkin and Epperson, it has become nothing more than a crazed person/s screaming from a hill.

I don't hate Haiti, but why should I send you, Steve Koschal, money when I can go directly to one of many fine charities that are accepting them?

Don't get me wrong. I enjoy reading about the screw ups of the big boys as much as anyone because it shows that trusted authenticators make mistakes. The difference between a Coach's Corner Ed Delahanty and a JSA authenticated version is a $19,800 error (assuming that CCSA gets $200 for one of their Delahantys), but by not making aware of certain issues in the hobby (the sellers and authenticators who never get it right), it becomes what it is now, an agenda driven blog by a competitor, P.A.A.S.

Rich Klein · #9 01-31-2010, 08:25 PM

This is a site created to deal with the issues brought up by Koschal, Frost, et al

http://autographalerttruth.com/enter.html

Nothing like a nice fight; everyone should bring plenty of popcorn in reading these two sites

Regards
Rich

Jewish-collector · #10 01-31-2010, 09:55 PM

I agree with Rich. But, too much to read. Can someone give us the short version in 100 words or less.

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